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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 7 …of advanced technological ma- chinery manned by some kind of intelligence, that is, the extrater- restrial…
  • p. 9 …American Association for the Advancement of Science; Astronomy Society(secretary). Specialty: Astrophysics. Fields of Interest: Stellar…
  • p. 19 …The Air Force has no evidence that UFO's are extra-terrestrial or rep- resent advanced…
  • p. 24 18 (The biography of Dr.McDonald follows:) DR. JAMES E. MCDONAI,D Born: Duluth, Minn., May…
  • p. 29 …from some advanced technology sufficiently advanced to do what we cannot do in the sense of…
  • p. 32 …The possibility that these are extraterrestrial devices, that we are dealing with surveillance from some advanced…
  • p. 40 …THE UNCONVENTIONAL NATURE OF THE UFO PROBLEM To both laymen and scientists, the impressive progress that…
  • p. 48 …At first, they thought it was a jet, whose exhaust was somehow accounting for the advancing…
  • p. 59 …advanced civilization of extraterrestrial origin, the pattern of the observa- tions, the motivation of the surveillance…
  • p. 75 …To ignore most of the salient features of a sighting in order to advance an easy…
  • p. 94 …Now, if we want to assess the likelihood that there are intelligentcivilizations somewhere in advance of…
  • p. 95 …be far in advance of our own,and this,therefore raises the question of how likely…
  • p. 96 …that an advance civilization comes here very rarely. But I again emphasize the great uncertainty in…
  • p. 97 91 So, to conclude what I understand is the main reason why this committee has asked…
  • p. 100 …the possibility of its development by other civilizations. But if each of, say, a million advanced…
  • p. 101 …a race of advanced and benign creatures were devoted to our welfare. The interest in unidentified…
  • p. 111 …The possible value of contact for purposes of advancing our knowledge of our technology. Let's…
  • p. 112 …again the same possible great value from under- standing the phenomenon in order to advance our…
  • p. 116 …We must then concern ourselves with the possible consequences of contact with technologically advanced civilizations whose…
  • p. 117 111 the task. We must also 'be concerned with the risks of panic resulting in people…
  • p. 124 …Gravitation remains one of the enigmas of modern science, although there have been some advances in…
  • p. 125 …This will depend upon advances in many fields of science. Some of the things required will…
  • p. 130 …Gravitation remains one of the enigmas of modern science, although there have been some advances in…
  • p. 132 …Baker's professional society memberships include the American Associa- tion for the Advancement of Science, Phi…
  • p. 140 …There have been many debates on the technical capabilities or limits on the capabilities of advanced…
  • p. 141 135 area of forecasting the social characteristics of an advanced extrater- restrial civilization. Philosophers, social scientists…
  • p. 142 …in the environs of the earth, or to make dubious speculations either concerning "their" advanced scientific…
  • p. 143 …the gross characteristics of an advanced civilization. These studies (probablynot Government funded) should include the social…
  • p. 150 …Applications and Advanced Topics, Academic Press, New York, pp. 112-115 and pp. 376 to 392…
  • p. 153 147 00015 "Recent Advances in Astrodynamics," (with Samuel Herrick), Jet Propul- sion, 28, No. 10, 1958…
  • p. 154 …00040 "State-of-the-Art-1960 Astrodynamics,"Astronautics, 5, No. 11, 30, 1960. 00041 "Novel Orbit…
  • p. 157 …Makemson) 00071 Astrodynamics - Applications and Advanced Topics, Academic Press, New York, 1967. 00072 "Recent Advances in…
  • p. 171 …In the past five years, he has advanced from assistant bookkeeper to teller to head teller…
  • p. 174 …He has no desire to advance any further up the bank totem pole, says he never…
  • p. 189 …advanced radar systems air being de- vekii2ed for our missile defense systems, such as the ALTAR…
  • p. 190 …of the Earth or to make very dubious speculations 191, t101 either concerning "their" advanced scientific…
  • p. 203 …The primary attribute of an advanced intelligent civilization is its ability to create its own environment…
  • p. 204 …Menzel became acting Director of Harvard College Observatory and, in 1954, was advanced to the Directorship…
  • p. 207 …approach it or advances as you move away. As we look over the Air Force files…
  • p. 210 …Or at least that is the com- mon argument advanced by UFO buffs. Radar is cursed…
  • p. 212 …Life Member of American Association for the Advancement of Science. Professional Organizational Activities: State delegate to…
  • p. 217 …our level of advancement? As noted in the Special Report of the USAF Scientific Advisory Board…
  • p. 219 …Friedman has a relatively unique background in advanced technology, hav- ing been actively involved in the…
  • p. 222 …the existence of advanced civilizations. We frequently forget that the resolution of present photographs of the…
  • p. 223 …36, 37) and the American Association for the Advancement of Science is planning a UFO seminar…
  • p. 224 …reason, would not examine the data relevant to UFOs or advanced technology. Marcowitz was totally wrong…
  • p. 225 …reason, would not examine the data relevant to UFOs or advanced technology. Marcowitz was totally wrong…
  • p. 226 …B., "The Phenomenological Aspects of Magnetogasdynamic Re-entry." Presented at the 10th Midwestern Mechanics Conference, Colorado…
  • p. 227 …not alone in the Universe and surely some civilizations are more advanced than ours, but interstellar…
  • p. 233 …possible sites in advance, we could simply move in to recover the desired information after an…
  • p. 234 …The effectiveness of the proposed procedure would depend very heavily upon the amount of thought, care…
  • p. 237 …listed in advance on a 'standardized rating sheet. However this part of the experiment will not…
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(b)
Close
-range
sightings
of
wingless
discs
and
cigar
-shaped objects.—Thiscategory
is
far
more
interesting.
Many
are
daytime
sightings,
many
have
been
made
by
witnesses
of
quite
high
credibility.
Structural
details
such
as
"ports"
and
"legs"
(to use
the
terms
the
witnesses
have
adopted
to
suggest
most
closely
what
they
think
they
have
seen) are
described in
many
instances.
Lack
of
wings
and
lack
of
evident
means
of
propulsion
clearly
rule
out
conventional
aircraft
and
helicopters.
Many
are
soundless,
many
move
at such
speeds
and
with such
accelerations
that
they
defy
understanding
in
terms
of
presenttechnology.
It
is
to
be
understood that
I
speak
here
only
of
reports
from
what
I
regard
as
credible
observers.
(c)
Close
-range nighttime
sightings
of
glowing, hovering
objects,
often
with
blinking
or
pulsating
discrete
lights.—In
these
instances,
distinct
shape
is
not
seen,
evidently in
many
cases
because
of
the
brilliance
of the
lights.
Less
significant
than
those
of the
preceding
category, these nonetheless
cannot be
accounted
for
in
terms
of
any
known
vehicles.
Frequently they
are
reported
hovering over
vehicles
on
the
ground
or
following
them. Sometimes
they are
reported
hovering over
structures,
factories,
power
installations,
and
the
like.
Soundlessness
is typical.
Estimated
sizes
vary
widely,
over
a
range
that
I
do
not
believe
can
be
accounted for
simply
in
terms
of
the
known
unreliability
of
distance
and
size
estimates
when
one
views
an
unknown
object.
(d)
Radar
-tracked
objects,
sometimes
seen
visually
simultaneously
by
ob-
servers
on
the
ground
or
in
the
air.—In
many
of
these
cases,
the
clues to
the
non
-conventional
nature of the
radar
target
is
high speed
(estimated
at
thou-
sands
of
miles
per
hour
in
certain
instances)
;
in
others,
it
is
alternate
motion
and
hovering;
in
still
others,
it
has
been the unconventional
vertical
motions
that
make
the radar
observations
significant.
Clearly,
most
important are
thoseinstances in
which
there
was
close
agreement between
the
visual
and
the
radar
unknown.
There
are far
more
such
cases
than
either
scientists
or
public
would
guess.
Those
four
categories
do
not exhaust
the
list
by any
means.
But
they
constitute
four
commonly
encountered
categories
that are of
interest
here.
Examples
will
be
found
below.
7.
Commonly
encountered
questions
As Mark
Twain
said,
"Faith
is
a
great
thing,
but
it's
doubt
that
gets
you
an
education."
There
are
many
questions
that
one
encounters again
and
again
from
persons
who
have done no
personal case-checking
and
who
maintain
a
healthy skepticism
about
UFOs.
Why
don't
pilots
report these things
if
they are
buzzing
around
in
our
skies?
Why
aren't
they
tracked
on
radar?
Why
don't
our
satellite
and
astro-
nomical
tracking
systems
get
photos
of
UFOs?
Why
are they
always
seen
in
out-
of-the-way rural
areas but never over large
cities?
Why
don't
large
groups
ofpeople
ever simultaneously see
UFOs,
instead
of
lone
individuals?
Why
don't
astronomers
see
them?
Shouldn't
UFOs
occasionally
crash
and
leave
clear-cut
physical evidence
of
their reality?
Or
shouldn't
they at
least
leave
some
residual
physical
evidence in those
alleged
instances
where
the
objects
have landed?
Shouldn't they
affect
radios
and
produce
other electromagnetic
effects
at times?If
UFOs
are
a
product of
some
high
civilization,
wouldn't
one
expect
somethingof the nature of
inquisitive
behavior,
since
innate
curiosity
must
be
a
common
denominator of anything
we
would
call
"intelligence"?
Why
haven't
they
con-tacted
us
if
they're
from somewhere
else
in
the universe
and
have
been here for
at
least
two
decades? Is
there
any
evidence of
hostility
or
hazard?
Are
UFOs
seen only in
this
country?
Why
didn't
we
see
them
before 1947,
if
they
come fromremote
sources?
And
so on.
In
the following
sections,
I
shall
show
how
some
of these questions
do have
quite satisfactory
answers,
and
how some
of
them
still
defy adequate
rebuttal.
I
shall
use mostly
cases that
I
have
personally investigated, but, in
a few
in-
stances (clearly indicated),
I
shall
draw upon
cases
which
I
have not
directly
checked but for
which
I
regard the case
-credentials
as very
strong.
8. Useful source materials
on UFO's
Hoping
that
Committee
staff
personnel
will
be pursuing these matters further,
I remark next on some
of the
more
significant
items in the
UFO
literature.
All
of these
have been
helpful in
my own
studies.
One
of the outstanding
UFO
references
(though
little-known in
scientific cir-
cles) is
The
UFO
Evidence, edited
by R. H.
Hall and
published
by
NICAP
(Ref. 10). It summarizes about 750
UFO
cases in the
NICAP
files
up to about

Cases discussed

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