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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
39
(b)
Close
-range
sightings
of
wingless
discs
and
cigar
-shaped objects.—Thiscategory
is
far
more
interesting.
Many
are
daytime
sightings,
many
have
been
made
by
witnesses
of
quite
high
credibility.
Structural
details
such
as
"ports"
and
"legs"
(to use
the
terms
the
witnesses
have
adopted
to
suggest
most
closely
what
they
think
they
have
seen) are
described in
many
instances.
Lack
of
wings
and
lack
of
evident
means
of
propulsion
clearly
rule
out
conventional
aircraft
and
helicopters.
Many
are
soundless,
many
move
at such
speeds
and
with such
accelerations
that
they
defy
understanding
in
terms
of
presenttechnology.
It
is
to
be
understood that
I
speak
here
only
of
reports
from
what
I
regard
as
credible
observers.
(c)
Close
-range nighttime
sightings
of
glowing, hovering
objects,
often
with
blinking
or
pulsating
discrete
lights.—In
these
instances,
distinct
shape
is
not
seen,
evidently in
many
cases
because
of
the
brilliance
of the
lights.
Less
significant
than
those
of the
preceding
category, these nonetheless
cannot be
accounted
for
in
terms
of
any
known
vehicles.
Frequently they
are
reported
hovering over
vehicles
on
the
ground
or
following
them. Sometimes
they are
reported
hovering over
structures,
factories,
power
installations,
and
the
like.
Soundlessness
is typical.
Estimated
sizes
vary
widely,
over
a
range
that
I
do
not
believe
can
be
accounted for
simply
in
terms
of
the
known
unreliability
of
distance
and
size
estimates
when
one
views
an
unknown
object.
(d)
Radar
-tracked
objects,
sometimes
seen
visually
simultaneously
by
ob-
servers
on
the
ground
or
in
the
air.—In
many
of
these
cases,
the
clues to
the
non
-conventional
nature of the
radar
target
is
high speed
(estimated
at
thou-
sands
of
miles
per
hour
in
certain
instances)
;
in
others,
it
is
alternate
motion
and
hovering;
in
still
others,
it
has
been the unconventional
vertical
motions
that
make
the radar
observations
significant.
Clearly,
most
important are
thoseinstances in
which
there
was
close
agreement between
the
visual
and
the
radar
unknown.
There
are far
more
such
cases
than
either
scientists
or
public
would
guess.
Those
four
categories
do
not exhaust
the
list
by any
means.
But
they
constitute
four
commonly
encountered
categories
that are of
interest
here.
Examples
will
be
found
below.
7.
Commonly
encountered
questions
As Mark
Twain
said,
"Faith
is
a
great
thing,
but
it's
doubt
that
gets
you
an
education."
There
are
many
questions
that
one
encounters again
and
again
from
persons
who
have done no
personal case-checking
and
who
maintain
a
healthy skepticism
about
UFOs.
Why
don't
pilots
report these things
if
they are
buzzing
around
in
our
skies?
Why
aren't
they
tracked
on
radar?
Why
don't
our
satellite
and
astro-
nomical
tracking
systems
get
photos
of
UFOs?
Why
are they
always
seen
in
out-
of-the-way rural
areas but never over large
cities?
Why
don't
large
groups
ofpeople
ever simultaneously see
UFOs,
instead
of
lone
individuals?
Why
don't
astronomers
see
them?
Shouldn't
UFOs
occasionally
crash
and
leave
clear-cut
physical evidence
of
their reality?
Or
shouldn't
they at
least
leave
some
residual
physical
evidence in those
alleged
instances
where
the
objects
have landed?
Shouldn't they
affect
radios
and
produce
other electromagnetic
effects
at times?If
UFOs
are
a
product of
some
high
civilization,
wouldn't
one
expect
somethingof the nature of
inquisitive
behavior,
since
innate
curiosity
must
be
a
common
denominator of anything
we
would
call
"intelligence"?
Why
haven't
they
con-tacted
us
if
they're
from somewhere
else
in
the universe
and
have
been here for
at
least
two
decades? Is
there
any
evidence of
hostility
or
hazard?
Are
UFOs
seen only in
this
country?
Why
didn't
we
see
them
before 1947,
if
they
come fromremote
sources?
And
so on.
In
the following
sections,
I
shall
show
how
some
of these questions
do have
quite satisfactory
answers,
and
how some
of
them
still
defy adequate
rebuttal.
I
shall
use mostly
cases that
I
have
personally investigated, but, in
a few
in-
stances (clearly indicated),
I
shall
draw upon
cases
which
I
have not
directly
checked but for
which
I
regard the case
-credentials
as very
strong.
8. Useful source materials
on UFO's
Hoping
that
Committee
staff
personnel
will
be pursuing these matters further,
I remark next on some
of the
more
significant
items in the
UFO
literature.
All
of these
have been
helpful in
my own
studies.
One
of the outstanding
UFO
references
(though
little-known in
scientific cir-
cles) is
The
UFO
Evidence, edited
by R. H.
Hall and
published
by
NICAP
(Ref. 10). It summarizes about 750
UFO
cases in the
NICAP
files
up to about

Cases discussed

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