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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 7 …of advanced technological ma- chinery manned by some kind of intelligence, that is, the extrater- restrial…
  • p. 9 …American Association for the Advancement of Science; Astronomy Society(secretary). Specialty: Astrophysics. Fields of Interest: Stellar…
  • p. 19 …The Air Force has no evidence that UFO's are extra-terrestrial or rep- resent advanced…
  • p. 24 18 (The biography of Dr.McDonald follows:) DR. JAMES E. MCDONAI,D Born: Duluth, Minn., May…
  • p. 29 …from some advanced technology sufficiently advanced to do what we cannot do in the sense of…
  • p. 32 …The possibility that these are extraterrestrial devices, that we are dealing with surveillance from some advanced…
  • p. 40 …THE UNCONVENTIONAL NATURE OF THE UFO PROBLEM To both laymen and scientists, the impressive progress that…
  • p. 48 …At first, they thought it was a jet, whose exhaust was somehow accounting for the advancing…
  • p. 59 …advanced civilization of extraterrestrial origin, the pattern of the observa- tions, the motivation of the surveillance…
  • p. 75 …To ignore most of the salient features of a sighting in order to advance an easy…
  • p. 94 …Now, if we want to assess the likelihood that there are intelligentcivilizations somewhere in advance of…
  • p. 95 …be far in advance of our own,and this,therefore raises the question of how likely…
  • p. 96 …that an advance civilization comes here very rarely. But I again emphasize the great uncertainty in…
  • p. 97 91 So, to conclude what I understand is the main reason why this committee has asked…
  • p. 100 …the possibility of its development by other civilizations. But if each of, say, a million advanced…
  • p. 101 …a race of advanced and benign creatures were devoted to our welfare. The interest in unidentified…
  • p. 111 …The possible value of contact for purposes of advancing our knowledge of our technology. Let's…
  • p. 112 …again the same possible great value from under- standing the phenomenon in order to advance our…
  • p. 116 …We must then concern ourselves with the possible consequences of contact with technologically advanced civilizations whose…
  • p. 117 111 the task. We must also 'be concerned with the risks of panic resulting in people…
  • p. 124 …Gravitation remains one of the enigmas of modern science, although there have been some advances in…
  • p. 125 …This will depend upon advances in many fields of science. Some of the things required will…
  • p. 130 …Gravitation remains one of the enigmas of modern science, although there have been some advances in…
  • p. 132 …Baker's professional society memberships include the American Associa- tion for the Advancement of Science, Phi…
  • p. 140 …There have been many debates on the technical capabilities or limits on the capabilities of advanced…
  • p. 141 135 area of forecasting the social characteristics of an advanced extrater- restrial civilization. Philosophers, social scientists…
  • p. 142 …in the environs of the earth, or to make dubious speculations either concerning "their" advanced scientific…
  • p. 143 …the gross characteristics of an advanced civilization. These studies (probablynot Government funded) should include the social…
  • p. 150 …Applications and Advanced Topics, Academic Press, New York, pp. 112-115 and pp. 376 to 392…
  • p. 153 147 00015 "Recent Advances in Astrodynamics," (with Samuel Herrick), Jet Propul- sion, 28, No. 10, 1958…
  • p. 154 …00040 "State-of-the-Art-1960 Astrodynamics,"Astronautics, 5, No. 11, 30, 1960. 00041 "Novel Orbit…
  • p. 157 …Makemson) 00071 Astrodynamics - Applications and Advanced Topics, Academic Press, New York, 1967. 00072 "Recent Advances in…
  • p. 171 …In the past five years, he has advanced from assistant bookkeeper to teller to head teller…
  • p. 174 …He has no desire to advance any further up the bank totem pole, says he never…
  • p. 189 …advanced radar systems air being de- vekii2ed for our missile defense systems, such as the ALTAR…
  • p. 190 …of the Earth or to make very dubious speculations 191, t101 either concerning "their" advanced scientific…
  • p. 203 …The primary attribute of an advanced intelligent civilization is its ability to create its own environment…
  • p. 204 …Menzel became acting Director of Harvard College Observatory and, in 1954, was advanced to the Directorship…
  • p. 207 …approach it or advances as you move away. As we look over the Air Force files…
  • p. 210 …Or at least that is the com- mon argument advanced by UFO buffs. Radar is cursed…
  • p. 212 …Life Member of American Association for the Advancement of Science. Professional Organizational Activities: State delegate to…
  • p. 217 …our level of advancement? As noted in the Special Report of the USAF Scientific Advisory Board…
  • p. 219 …Friedman has a relatively unique background in advanced technology, hav- ing been actively involved in the…
  • p. 222 …the existence of advanced civilizations. We frequently forget that the resolution of present photographs of the…
  • p. 223 …36, 37) and the American Association for the Advancement of Science is planning a UFO seminar…
  • p. 224 …reason, would not examine the data relevant to UFOs or advanced technology. Marcowitz was totally wrong…
  • p. 225 …reason, would not examine the data relevant to UFOs or advanced technology. Marcowitz was totally wrong…
  • p. 226 …B., "The Phenomenological Aspects of Magnetogasdynamic Re-entry." Presented at the 10th Midwestern Mechanics Conference, Colorado…
  • p. 227 …not alone in the Universe and surely some civilizations are more advanced than ours, but interstellar…
  • p. 233 …possible sites in advance, we could simply move in to recover the desired information after an…
  • p. 234 …The effectiveness of the proposed procedure would depend very heavily upon the amount of thought, care…
  • p. 237 …listed in advance on a 'standardized rating sheet. However this part of the experiment will not…
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Air Force Intelligence, put it in a 1952 Pentagon press conference: "Credible ob-
servers have sighted relatively incredible objects."
Not only is the charge of notoriety-seeking wrong, not only is the charge of
hyperexcitability quite inappropriate to the witnesses I have interviewed, but so
also is the easy charge that they see an unusual aerial phenomenon and directly
leap to some kind of "spaceship hypothesis." My experience in interviewing wit-
nesses in the selected sample I have examined since 1966 is that the witness first
attempts to fit the anomalous observation into some entirely conventional
category. "I thought it must be an airplane." Or, "At first, I thought it was an
auto-wrecker with its red light blinking." Or, "I thought it was a meteor—until
it stopped dead in midair," etc. Hynek has a very happy phrase for this very
typical pattern of witness-response: he terms it "escalation of explanation", to
denote the often rapid succession of increasingly more involved attempts to ac-
count for and to assimilate what is passing before the witness' eyes, almost in-
variably starting with an everyday interpretation, not with a spaceship hypoth-
esis. Indeed, I probably react in a way characteristic of all UFO investigators;
in those comparatively rare cases where the witness discloses that he immediately
interpreted what he sighted as an extraterrestrial device, I back away from what
is likely to be a most unprofitable interview. I repeat: such instances are really
quite rare; most of the general population has soaked up a degree of scientific
conventionalism that reflects the net result of decades, if not centuries of scien-
tific shaping of our views. I might interject that the segment of the population
drawn to Hypothesis 8 above might be quick to jump to a spaceship interpreta-
tion on seeing something unusual in the sky, but, on the whole, those persons
convinced of Hypothesis 8 are quite uninterested in observations, per se. Their
conviction is firm without bothering about such things as observational matters.
At least that is what I have sensed from such exposure is I have had to those
who support Hypothesis 8 fervently.
S. Credibility of witnesses
Evaluating credibility of witnesses is, of course, an ever-present problem at
the present stage of UFO studies. Again, from discussions with other investi-
gators, I have concluded that common sense and previous everyday experience
with prevaricators and unreliable persons lead each serious UFO investigator
to evolve a set of criteria that do not differ much from those used in jury instruc-
tions in our courts (e.g., Federal Jury Instructions). It seems tedious to enlarge
here on those obvious matters. One can be fooled, of course; but it would be
rash indeed to suggest that the thousands of UFO reports now on record are
simply a testimony to confabulation, as will be better argued by some of the cases
to be recounted below.
4. Observational reliability of witnesses
Separate from credibility in the sense of trustworthiness and honesty is the
question of the human being as a sensing system. Clearly, it is indispensable to
be aware of psychophysical factors limiting visual discrimination, time estima-
tion, distance estimation, angular estimation, etc. In dealing with the total
sample of all observations which laymen initially label as UFOs, such factors
play a large role in sorting out dubious cases. In the type of UFO reports that
are of primary significance at present, close-range sightings of objects of large
size moving at low velocities, or at rest, and in sight for many seconds rather
than fractions of a second, all of these perceptual problems diminish in sig-
nificance, though they can never be overlooked.
A frequent objection to serious consideration of UFO reports, made by skeptics
who have done no first-hand case investigations, is based on the widely discrepant
accounts known to be presented by trial-witnesses who have all been present at
some incident. To be sure, the same kind of discrepancies emerge in multiple-
witness UFO incidents. People differ as to directions, relative times, sizes, etc.
But I believe it is not unfair to remark, as the basic rebuttal to this attack on
UFO accounts, that a group of witnesses who see a street-corner automobile col-
lision do not come to court and proceed, in turn, to describe the event as a
rhinoceros ramming a baby carriage, or as an airplane exploding on impact with
a nearby building. There are, it needs to be soberly remembered, quite reasonable
bounds upon the variance of witness testimonies in such cases. Thus, when one
finds a half-dozen persons all saying that they were a few hundred feet from
a domed disk with no resemblance to any known aircraft, that it took off with-
out a sound, and was gone from sight in five seconds, the almost inevitable varia-
tions in descriptions of distances, shape, secondary features, noises, and times

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