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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
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Air Force Intelligence, put it in a 1952 Pentagon press conference: "Credible ob-
servers have sighted relatively incredible objects."
Not only is the charge of notoriety-seeking wrong, not only is the charge of
hyperexcitability quite inappropriate to the witnesses I have interviewed, but so
also is the easy charge that they see an unusual aerial phenomenon and directly
leap to some kind of "spaceship hypothesis." My experience in interviewing wit-
nesses in the selected sample I have examined since 1966 is that the witness first
attempts to fit the anomalous observation into some entirely conventional
category. "I thought it must be an airplane." Or, "At first, I thought it was an
auto-wrecker with its red light blinking." Or, "I thought it was a meteor—until
it stopped dead in midair," etc. Hynek has a very happy phrase for this very
typical pattern of witness-response: he terms it "escalation of explanation", to
denote the often rapid succession of increasingly more involved attempts to ac-
count for and to assimilate what is passing before the witness' eyes, almost in-
variably starting with an everyday interpretation, not with a spaceship hypoth-
esis. Indeed, I probably react in a way characteristic of all UFO investigators;
in those comparatively rare cases where the witness discloses that he immediately
interpreted what he sighted as an extraterrestrial device, I back away from what
is likely to be a most unprofitable interview. I repeat: such instances are really
quite rare; most of the general population has soaked up a degree of scientific
conventionalism that reflects the net result of decades, if not centuries of scien-
tific shaping of our views. I might interject that the segment of the population
drawn to Hypothesis 8 above might be quick to jump to a spaceship interpreta-
tion on seeing something unusual in the sky, but, on the whole, those persons
convinced of Hypothesis 8 are quite uninterested in observations, per se. Their
conviction is firm without bothering about such things as observational matters.
At least that is what I have sensed from such exposure is I have had to those
who support Hypothesis 8 fervently.
S. Credibility of witnesses
Evaluating credibility of witnesses is, of course, an ever-present problem at
the present stage of UFO studies. Again, from discussions with other investi-
gators, I have concluded that common sense and previous everyday experience
with prevaricators and unreliable persons lead each serious UFO investigator
to evolve a set of criteria that do not differ much from those used in jury instruc-
tions in our courts (e.g., Federal Jury Instructions). It seems tedious to enlarge
here on those obvious matters. One can be fooled, of course; but it would be
rash indeed to suggest that the thousands of UFO reports now on record are
simply a testimony to confabulation, as will be better argued by some of the cases
to be recounted below.
4. Observational reliability of witnesses
Separate from credibility in the sense of trustworthiness and honesty is the
question of the human being as a sensing system. Clearly, it is indispensable to
be aware of psychophysical factors limiting visual discrimination, time estima-
tion, distance estimation, angular estimation, etc. In dealing with the total
sample of all observations which laymen initially label as UFOs, such factors
play a large role in sorting out dubious cases. In the type of UFO reports that
are of primary significance at present, close-range sightings of objects of large
size moving at low velocities, or at rest, and in sight for many seconds rather
than fractions of a second, all of these perceptual problems diminish in sig-
nificance, though they can never be overlooked.
A frequent objection to serious consideration of UFO reports, made by skeptics
who have done no first-hand case investigations, is based on the widely discrepant
accounts known to be presented by trial-witnesses who have all been present at
some incident. To be sure, the same kind of discrepancies emerge in multiple-
witness UFO incidents. People differ as to directions, relative times, sizes, etc.
But I believe it is not unfair to remark, as the basic rebuttal to this attack on
UFO accounts, that a group of witnesses who see a street-corner automobile col-
lision do not come to court and proceed, in turn, to describe the event as a
rhinoceros ramming a baby carriage, or as an airplane exploding on impact with
a nearby building. There are, it needs to be soberly remembered, quite reasonable
bounds upon the variance of witness testimonies in such cases. Thus, when one
finds a half-dozen persons all saying that they were a few hundred feet from
a domed disk with no resemblance to any known aircraft, that it took off with-
out a sound, and was gone from sight in five seconds, the almost inevitable varia-
tions in descriptions of distances, shape, secondary features, noises, and times

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