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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
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years now with the dramatic goal of a search for life in the universe, I submit
that the topic of today's Symposium is eminently deserving of your attention.
Indeed, I have to state, for the record, that I believe no other problem within
your jurisdiction is of comparable scientific and national importance. Those are
strong words,and I intend them to be.
In addition to your Committee responsibilities with respect to science and the
aerospace programs, there is another still broader basis upon which it is highly
appropriate that you now take up the UFO problem: Twenty years of public
interest, public puzzlement, and even some public disquiet demand that we all
push toward early clarification of this unparalleled scientific mystery. I hope that
our session here today will prove a significant turning point, orienting new
scientific efforts towards illumination of this scientific problem that has been
with us for over 20 years.
SCOPE AND BACKGROUND OF PRESENT COMMENTS
It has been suggested that I review for you my experiences in interviewing
UFO witnesses here and abroad and that I discuss ways in which my professional
experience in the field of atmospheric physics and meteorology illuminates past
and present attempts at accounting for UFO phenomena. To understand the basis
of my comments, it may be helpful to note briefly the nature of my own studies
on UFOs.
I have had a moderate interest in the UFO problem for twenty years, much
as have a scattering of other scientists. In southern Arizona, during the period
1956-66, I interviewed, on a generally rather random basis, witness in such
local sightings as happened to come to my attention via press or personnal com-
munications. This experience taught me much about lay misinterpretations of
observations of aircraft, planets, meteors, balloons, flares, and the like. The
frequency with which laymen misconstrue phenomena associated with fireballs
(meteors brighter than magnitude —5), led me to devote special study to
meteor physics; other topics in my own field of atmospheric physics also drew
my closer attention as a result of their bearing on various categories of UFO
reports. This period of rather casual UFO-witness interviewing on a local basis
proved mainly educational; yet on a few occasions I encountered witnesses of
seemingly high credibility whose reports lay well outside any evident metero-
logical, astronomical, or other conventional bounds. Because I was quite unaware,
before 1966, that those cases were, in fact, paralleled by astonishing numbers of
comparable cases elsewhere in the U.S. and the rest of the world, they left me only
moderately puzzled and mildly bothered, since I came upon relatively few im-
pressive cases within the environs of Tucson in those dozen years of discursive
study. I was aware of the work of non-official national investigative groups like
NICAP (National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena) and APRO
(Aerial Phenomena Research Organization) ; but lacking basis for detailed per-
sonal evaluation of their investigative methods, I simply did not take their
publications very seriously. I was under other misimpressions, I found later, as
to the nature of the official UFO program, but I shall not enlarge on this before
this Commitee. (I cite all of this here because I regard it relevant to an apprecia-
tion, by the Committee, of the way in which at least one scientist has developed
his present strong concern for the UFO problem, after a prior period of some
years of only mild interest. Despite having interviewed a total of perhaps 150--
200 Tucson-area witnesses prior to 1966 (75 of them in a single inconclusive
case in 1958), I was far from overwhelmed with the importance of the UFO
problem.
A particular sighting incident in Tucson in early 1966, followed by the widely-
publicized March, 1966, Michigan sightings (I, too, felt that the "swamp gas"
explanation was quite absurd once I checked a few relevant points), led me
finally to take certain steps to devote the coming summer vacation months to a
much closer look at the UFO problem. Within only a few weeks in May and
June of 1966, after taking a close look at the files and modes of operation of both
private and official (i.e., Project Bluebook) UFO investigative programs, after
seeing for the first time press-clipping files of (to me) astonishing bulk, cover-
ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all)
after the beginning of what became a long period of personal interviewing of
key witnesses in important UFO cases, I rapidly altered my conception of the
scientific importance of the UFO question. By mid-1966, I had already begun
what became months of effort to arouse new interest and to generate new UFO
investigative programs in various science agencies of the Federal government

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