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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
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This
extends
down
to
the
limit
of
single
houses
losing
their
power
when
a
UFO
is
near.
The
hypothesis
in
the
case
of
car
stopping
is
that
there
might
be high magnetic
fields,
d.c.
fields,
which
saturate
the
core
and
thus prevent the
pulses
going through
the system
to
the
other
side.
Just
how
a
UFO
could
trigger
an
outage
on a
large
power
network
is
however
not
yet
clear.
But
this
is
a
disturbing
series
of
coincidences
that
I
think
warrant
much
more
attention
than
they
have
so far
received.
Mr. RYAN.
As
far as
you
know,
has
any
agency
investigated
the
New
York
blackout
in
relation
to
UFO?
Dr.
MCDONALD.
None
at
all.
When I
spoke
to
the
FPC
people,
I
was
dissatisfied
with the
amount
of
information
I
could
gain.
I am
saying
there
is
a
puzzling
and
slightly
disturbing coincidence
here.
I'm
not going
on
record as
saying,
yes,
these
are
clear-cut
cause
and
effect
relations.
I'm
saying
it
ought
to
be
looked
at.
There
is
no
one
looking at
this relation
between
UFO's
and
outages.
Mr.
RousTr.
Our
time
is
really
running
short,
Mr.
Ryan.
Mr.
RYAN.
One
final
question.
Do
you
think
it
is
imperative that
the
Federal
Power
Commission,
or Federal
Communications
Com-
mission,
investigate
the
relation
if
any
between
the
sightings
and
the
blackout?
Dr.
MCDONALD.
My
position
would
call
for
a somewhat
weaker
adjective.
I'd
say
extremely
desirable.
Mr.
Ro
-
crsH.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
Dr. McDonald.
PREPARED STATEMENT ON
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS
James E.
McDonald,
Senior
Physicist, Institute
of
Atmospheric
Physics,
and
Professor,
Department
of Meteorology,
The
University
of
Arizona,
Tucson,Arizona
INTRODUCTION
I
should
like
first
to
commend
the
House
Committee on
Science
and
Astronautics
for
recognizing
the
need
for
a
closer
look
at
scientific
aspects
of the
long-stand-
ing
puzzle
of the
Unidentified
Flying Objects
(UFOs). From
time
to
time
in
the
history
of
science, situations
have
arisen in
which
a
problem of
ultimately
enormous
importance
went
begging for
adequate
attention
simply because that
problem appeared
to involve
phenomena
so
far
outside
the current
bounds
of
scientific
knowledge
that
it
was
not even regarded
as
a
legitimate subject
of
serious
scientific
concern.
That
is precisely
the
situation
in
which
the
UFO
prob-
lem
now
lies.
One
of the
principal results
of
my
own
recent
intensive
study ofthe
UFO
enigma
is
this:
I
have become
convinced that the
scientific
community,
not
only in
this
country but throughout the world,
has
been
casually ignoring
as
nonsense
a
matter of
extraordinary
scientific
importance.
The
attention
of
your Committee
can,
and
I
hope
will,
aid greatly in correcting this situation.
As
you
will
note in the
following,
my
own
present opinion,
based
on
two
years
of
careful study,
is
that
UFOs
are probably
extraterrestrial
devices
engaged
in
something
that
might
very
tentatively
be termed
"surveillance."
If the
extraterrestrial
hypothesis
is
proved
correct
(and
I
emphasize
that thepresent evidence only
points in that
direction
but cannot be
said to
constitute
irrefutable
proof), then
clearly
UFOs
will
become
a
top
-priority
scientific
prob-
lem.
I
believe
you might
agree
that,
even
if
there
were
a
slight
chance of the
correctness
of that hypothesis, the
UFOs
would
demand
the
most
careful atten-tion.
In
fact,
that chance seems
to
some
of us
a
long
way
from
trivial.
We
sharethe view of Vice
Adm. R. H.
Hillenkoetter,
former
CIA
Director,
who
said eight
years ago, "It
is
imperative that
we
learn
where
the
UFOs
come from and what
their
purpose
is
(Ref. 1)"
Since your Committee
is
concerned not only with broadaspects of our
national
scientific
program but
also with the prosecution of our
entire space program, and
since that space program has been
tied in for
some

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