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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

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This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 7 …of advanced technological ma- chinery manned by some kind of intelligence, that is, the extrater- restrial…
  • p. 9 …American Association for the Advancement of Science; Astronomy Society(secretary). Specialty: Astrophysics. Fields of Interest: Stellar…
  • p. 19 …The Air Force has no evidence that UFO's are extra-terrestrial or rep- resent advanced…
  • p. 24 18 (The biography of Dr.McDonald follows:) DR. JAMES E. MCDONAI,D Born: Duluth, Minn., May…
  • p. 29 …from some advanced technology sufficiently advanced to do what we cannot do in the sense of…
  • p. 32 …The possibility that these are extraterrestrial devices, that we are dealing with surveillance from some advanced…
  • p. 40 …THE UNCONVENTIONAL NATURE OF THE UFO PROBLEM To both laymen and scientists, the impressive progress that…
  • p. 48 …At first, they thought it was a jet, whose exhaust was somehow accounting for the advancing…
  • p. 59 …advanced civilization of extraterrestrial origin, the pattern of the observa- tions, the motivation of the surveillance…
  • p. 75 …To ignore most of the salient features of a sighting in order to advance an easy…
  • p. 94 …Now, if we want to assess the likelihood that there are intelligentcivilizations somewhere in advance of…
  • p. 95 …be far in advance of our own,and this,therefore raises the question of how likely…
  • p. 96 …that an advance civilization comes here very rarely. But I again emphasize the great uncertainty in…
  • p. 97 91 So, to conclude what I understand is the main reason why this committee has asked…
  • p. 100 …the possibility of its development by other civilizations. But if each of, say, a million advanced…
  • p. 101 …a race of advanced and benign creatures were devoted to our welfare. The interest in unidentified…
  • p. 111 …The possible value of contact for purposes of advancing our knowledge of our technology. Let's…
  • p. 112 …again the same possible great value from under- standing the phenomenon in order to advance our…
  • p. 116 …We must then concern ourselves with the possible consequences of contact with technologically advanced civilizations whose…
  • p. 117 111 the task. We must also 'be concerned with the risks of panic resulting in people…
  • p. 124 …Gravitation remains one of the enigmas of modern science, although there have been some advances in…
  • p. 125 …This will depend upon advances in many fields of science. Some of the things required will…
  • p. 130 …Gravitation remains one of the enigmas of modern science, although there have been some advances in…
  • p. 132 …Baker's professional society memberships include the American Associa- tion for the Advancement of Science, Phi…
  • p. 140 …There have been many debates on the technical capabilities or limits on the capabilities of advanced…
  • p. 141 135 area of forecasting the social characteristics of an advanced extrater- restrial civilization. Philosophers, social scientists…
  • p. 142 …in the environs of the earth, or to make dubious speculations either concerning "their" advanced scientific…
  • p. 143 …the gross characteristics of an advanced civilization. These studies (probablynot Government funded) should include the social…
  • p. 150 …Applications and Advanced Topics, Academic Press, New York, pp. 112-115 and pp. 376 to 392…
  • p. 153 147 00015 "Recent Advances in Astrodynamics," (with Samuel Herrick), Jet Propul- sion, 28, No. 10, 1958…
  • p. 154 …00040 "State-of-the-Art-1960 Astrodynamics,"Astronautics, 5, No. 11, 30, 1960. 00041 "Novel Orbit…
  • p. 157 …Makemson) 00071 Astrodynamics - Applications and Advanced Topics, Academic Press, New York, 1967. 00072 "Recent Advances in…
  • p. 171 …In the past five years, he has advanced from assistant bookkeeper to teller to head teller…
  • p. 174 …He has no desire to advance any further up the bank totem pole, says he never…
  • p. 189 …advanced radar systems air being de- vekii2ed for our missile defense systems, such as the ALTAR…
  • p. 190 …of the Earth or to make very dubious speculations 191, t101 either concerning "their" advanced scientific…
  • p. 203 …The primary attribute of an advanced intelligent civilization is its ability to create its own environment…
  • p. 204 …Menzel became acting Director of Harvard College Observatory and, in 1954, was advanced to the Directorship…
  • p. 207 …approach it or advances as you move away. As we look over the Air Force files…
  • p. 210 …Or at least that is the com- mon argument advanced by UFO buffs. Radar is cursed…
  • p. 212 …Life Member of American Association for the Advancement of Science. Professional Organizational Activities: State delegate to…
  • p. 217 …our level of advancement? As noted in the Special Report of the USAF Scientific Advisory Board…
  • p. 219 …Friedman has a relatively unique background in advanced technology, hav- ing been actively involved in the…
  • p. 222 …the existence of advanced civilizations. We frequently forget that the resolution of present photographs of the…
  • p. 223 …36, 37) and the American Association for the Advancement of Science is planning a UFO seminar…
  • p. 224 …reason, would not examine the data relevant to UFOs or advanced technology. Marcowitz was totally wrong…
  • p. 225 …reason, would not examine the data relevant to UFOs or advanced technology. Marcowitz was totally wrong…
  • p. 226 …B., "The Phenomenological Aspects of Magnetogasdynamic Re-entry." Presented at the 10th Midwestern Mechanics Conference, Colorado…
  • p. 227 …not alone in the Universe and surely some civilizations are more advanced than ours, but interstellar…
  • p. 233 …possible sites in advance, we could simply move in to recover the desired information after an…
  • p. 234 …The effectiveness of the proposed procedure would depend very heavily upon the amount of thought, care…
  • p. 237 …listed in advance on a 'standardized rating sheet. However this part of the experiment will not…
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amined
hundreds
of
cases
and
rejected
the
alternative
hypothesis
as
capable
of
accounting for
them.
I
am
afraid
that
this
possibility
has
sufficiently
good
backing
for
it,
despite
its
low
a
priori
ability,
that
we
must
examine
it.
I
think
your
committee, with
its
many
concerns
for
the
entire
aerospace pro-
gram,
as
well
as
our whole
national
scientific
program,
has
a
very
special
reason
for
examining
that
possibility.
Should
that
possibility
be
correct, if
there
is
even
a
chance of
its
being
correct,
we
ought
to
get
our
best
people
looking at
it.
Instead,
we
are
collectively
laughingat
this
possibility.
To
meet
Mr.
Rumsfeld's
request,
let
me
remark on
Dr.
Hynek's
two
recommendations.
I
strongly
concur
in the
need for
some
new
approach.
I
am
sure
Dr.
Hynek
was
not
suggesting
there
be
one
single
UFO
committee.
In
fact,
he
said,
"not
a
one-shot
approach."
A
plu-
ralistic
approach
to
the
problem
is
needed
here.
The
Defense
Department
is
already
supporting
some work on
it.
NASA
definitely
has
a
need
to look at
this
problem.
We
have
to
pay
very
serious attention
to
the
problem
and
get
a
variety
of
new
approaches.
The
other point
Dr.
Hynek
mentioned
was
that
we
try to
look
at
this
on a
worldwide
basis.
This
is
crucially
important.
We
are dealing
with
a
real
problem
here,
and
I
insist it is
a
global
problem.
We
canstudy
it
in the
United
States,
but
if
we
ignore
what
is
happening
in
France
and
England—one
of
the
greatest
UFO
waves
that ever
occurred
was
in
France—would
be
a
serious
mistake.
I
strongly
urge
that
your committee
consider
holding
rather
more
extensive
hearings
in
which
a
larger
segment of
the
scientific
community
is
given the
Opportunity to
talk
pro
and
con
on
the
issue,
hearings
aimed
at
getting
a
new
measure of
scientific
attention
to
this
important problem.
Thank
you.
Mr.
RousH. Thank
you,
Dr. McDonald,
for your
presentation.
As
we
explained
awhile ago,
we
are
pressed
for
time.
We
are
enter-
taining questions
from members
of
the committee.
Mr.
Bell.
Mr.
BELL.
Dr. McDonald,
I
want
to
compliment you
on
your
inter-
esting statement.
But
what
leads
you
to
believe
that
whatever
these
phenomena
are,
they
are
extraterrestrial?
What
facts
do
you have?
Dr.
MCDONALD.
May I
say
I
wouldn't use the
word
"believe."
I
would
say the "hypothesis" that
these are
extraterrestrial surveillance,is
the hypothesis
I
presently
regard as
most
likely.
As I
mentioned,
it
is
not hard
facts
in the
sense
of
irrefutable
proof,
but
dealing with
case after case
wherein the
witnesses
showed
credi-bility
I
can't
impugn. That
impresses
me. These
are
not
at
all
like
geophysical or astronomical
phenomena
they appear
to
be
craft
-like
machine
-like
devices.
I
would have to answer you
in
terms of
case
after case that
I
and
others
have
investigated,
to
make
all
this clear.
It
is this
very large
body of
impressive witnesses'
testimony, radar
-
tracking data
on
ultra-high-speed objects
sometimes moving
at over
5,000 miles
an hour,
UFO's,combined radar
-visual sightings,
and
just
too
much
other consistent evidence that suggests
we
are dealing with
machine
-like devices
from somewhere
else.

Cases discussed

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