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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
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reason to have invented the whole story. Sometimes it is fairly ap-
parent. Sometimes it takes a lot of digging to prove it.
I might say here that the independent investigative groups have
done an excellent job. It takes a knowledge of human characteristics,
not scientific expertise to detect lies and hoaxes.
Then there is the problem that you always have to be sure in talking
with witnesses that you are not dealing with somebody already very
enthusiastic about UFO's. You have to try to establish, and this is not
always easy, whether he has prior knowledge of the whole UFO litera-
ture. Are you dealing with somebody who is just telling. you again
what he has read in a recent magazine in the barber chair?
I emphasize that my experience is that again and again you find
people who were not really interested in UFO's until they saw one
themselves. Then they suddenly became very, very concerned, as one
more member of the public who has become a UFO witness; and in
this body of citizens there are some very distressed persons who wish
that the scientific community, or the Government, were doing some-
thing about this problem.
The types of objects that are being seen, and I state the word
"objects" not "hazy lights," are spread over quite a range of types, a
baffling range.
I.want to use that word many times, because it speaks for my ex-
perience. The UFO problem is baffling. But there is a predominance
of disc-shaped objects and elongated cigar-shaped objects, objects
without wings, appendages, tails, and that sort of thing. Typically,
wingless objects, disc- and cigar-shaped.
The same type of observations have been coming from all parts of
the world, and have been for a number of years. My direct interviews
with a witness in Australia speak for that global pattern.
Another characteristic that emerges is a quite fluctuatory frequency
of sightings. Right now, in the past few months, there have not been 4
very many really impressive cases that have come up; but last fall,
for example, England had a wave of sightings which was unprece-
dented in the English experience, that led, for example, to a BBC
documentary that has just been produced. It led also to a recently
published study,that I got only a couple of weeks ago from the Stoke-
on-Trent area in Staffordshire, 70 sightings in about a 21/2-month
period in this area. It happens that one of my colleagues is an English
physicist from that very area. As he points out, these are no-nonsense
people who are not airy-fairy types that would be on LSD, or seeing
ghosts in the sky.
He is puzzled,and I am puzzled.
. Well, there are many questions that are asked by skeptical scien-
tists, skeptical members of the public; and skepticism, as Mark Twain
said,is what gets you an education.
There are questions like."Why aren't TTFO's seen abroad?" "Why
aren't UFO's seen by airline pilots?" "Why aren't UFO's seen by
crowds of people rather than by lone individuals?" "Why aren't they
tracked by radar?" "Why don't weather observers and meteorolo-
crists see UFO's?"
"Why aren't there sonic booms,or why aren't there crashed UFO's?"
Finally, a very frequently raised question,"If the UFO's are from
somewhere else, if they are really devices that represent some high

Cases discussed

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