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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
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had no idea that the actual UFO situation is anything like what it
really appears to be.
There is a certain parallel between Dr. Hynek's slow recognition of
the problem and my slow recognition of the problem. I have been
curious about UFO's in a casual way for 10 or 20 years and have even
checked cases in the southern Arizona area off and on rather casually,
mainly encountering sincere laymen who do not recognize an aircraft
strobe light, or Venus, or a bright fireball, when they see them. It is
quite true that many persons misidentify natural phenomena; and
my experience was mainly but not entirely limited to that sort of case.
About 2 years ago I became more than casually curious for several
reasons that are not too relevant here, and began to spend much more
time and very quickly changed my notions about the problem.I visited
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base,saw their very impressive and sur-
prising UFO files, the pattern of which is entirely different from what
I had imagined.
At the same time, I contacted a number of private investigating
UFO groups, one of the best and most constructive located here in
Washington, the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phe-
nomena; contacted another one of the large national groups,the Aerial
Phenomenon Research Organization, and found again somewhat to
my surprise,that these amateur groups operating on a shoestring basis,
and frequently scorned by us scientists, were, in fact, doing really a
rather good investigative job within their resources, and had com-
piled in their files, for instance in NICAP, on the order of 10,000 or
12,000 cases, many of which I have subsequently checked, and all of
which imply a problem that has been lost from sight, swept under the
rug, ignored, and now needs to be very rapidly brought out into the
open as a problem demanding very serious and very high-caliber
scientific attention.
I wish to emphasize that. We must very quickly have very good
people looking into this problem, because it appears to be one of very
serious concern. We are dealing here with inexplicable phenomena,
baffling phenomena, that will not be clarified by any but the best
scientists.
The scope of my remarks this morning, and the scope of my more
detailed remarks in my prepared statement which has been submitted,
deal with two broad areas:
I have been asked to summarize the results of my interviewing of
witnesses in the last 2 years, what I found, the problems I have en-
countered and so on; and, secondly to address myself to the categories
of past explanations of UFO sightings, that hinge on my own field of
atmospheric physics.
Let me turn very briefly to my experience. In the past 2 years I
have been able to devote a substantial part of my time to this problem.
I have mainly concentrated on witnesses in UFO sightings that have
already been checked by some of the independent groups; that is, I
was no longer, in the last 2 years, dealing with original raw data
where it was primarily misidentified phenomena, but rather, I was
dealing with presifted, presorted data,leaning very heavily on groups
like NICAP and APRO,and other groups in this country and other
groups abroad for my leads and background material.

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