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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 7 …of advanced technological ma- chinery manned by some kind of intelligence, that is, the extrater- restrial…
  • p. 9 …American Association for the Advancement of Science; Astronomy Society(secretary). Specialty: Astrophysics. Fields of Interest: Stellar…
  • p. 19 …The Air Force has no evidence that UFO's are extra-terrestrial or rep- resent advanced…
  • p. 24 18 (The biography of Dr.McDonald follows:) DR. JAMES E. MCDONAI,D Born: Duluth, Minn., May…
  • p. 29 …from some advanced technology sufficiently advanced to do what we cannot do in the sense of…
  • p. 32 …The possibility that these are extraterrestrial devices, that we are dealing with surveillance from some advanced…
  • p. 40 …THE UNCONVENTIONAL NATURE OF THE UFO PROBLEM To both laymen and scientists, the impressive progress that…
  • p. 48 …At first, they thought it was a jet, whose exhaust was somehow accounting for the advancing…
  • p. 59 …advanced civilization of extraterrestrial origin, the pattern of the observa- tions, the motivation of the surveillance…
  • p. 75 …To ignore most of the salient features of a sighting in order to advance an easy…
  • p. 94 …Now, if we want to assess the likelihood that there are intelligentcivilizations somewhere in advance of…
  • p. 95 …be far in advance of our own,and this,therefore raises the question of how likely…
  • p. 96 …that an advance civilization comes here very rarely. But I again emphasize the great uncertainty in…
  • p. 97 91 So, to conclude what I understand is the main reason why this committee has asked…
  • p. 100 …the possibility of its development by other civilizations. But if each of, say, a million advanced…
  • p. 101 …a race of advanced and benign creatures were devoted to our welfare. The interest in unidentified…
  • p. 111 …The possible value of contact for purposes of advancing our knowledge of our technology. Let's…
  • p. 112 …again the same possible great value from under- standing the phenomenon in order to advance our…
  • p. 116 …We must then concern ourselves with the possible consequences of contact with technologically advanced civilizations whose…
  • p. 117 111 the task. We must also 'be concerned with the risks of panic resulting in people…
  • p. 124 …Gravitation remains one of the enigmas of modern science, although there have been some advances in…
  • p. 125 …This will depend upon advances in many fields of science. Some of the things required will…
  • p. 130 …Gravitation remains one of the enigmas of modern science, although there have been some advances in…
  • p. 132 …Baker's professional society memberships include the American Associa- tion for the Advancement of Science, Phi…
  • p. 140 …There have been many debates on the technical capabilities or limits on the capabilities of advanced…
  • p. 141 135 area of forecasting the social characteristics of an advanced extrater- restrial civilization. Philosophers, social scientists…
  • p. 142 …in the environs of the earth, or to make dubious speculations either concerning "their" advanced scientific…
  • p. 143 …the gross characteristics of an advanced civilization. These studies (probablynot Government funded) should include the social…
  • p. 150 …Applications and Advanced Topics, Academic Press, New York, pp. 112-115 and pp. 376 to 392…
  • p. 153 147 00015 "Recent Advances in Astrodynamics," (with Samuel Herrick), Jet Propul- sion, 28, No. 10, 1958…
  • p. 154 …00040 "State-of-the-Art-1960 Astrodynamics,"Astronautics, 5, No. 11, 30, 1960. 00041 "Novel Orbit…
  • p. 157 …Makemson) 00071 Astrodynamics - Applications and Advanced Topics, Academic Press, New York, 1967. 00072 "Recent Advances in…
  • p. 171 …In the past five years, he has advanced from assistant bookkeeper to teller to head teller…
  • p. 174 …He has no desire to advance any further up the bank totem pole, says he never…
  • p. 189 …advanced radar systems air being de- vekii2ed for our missile defense systems, such as the ALTAR…
  • p. 190 …of the Earth or to make very dubious speculations 191, t101 either concerning "their" advanced scientific…
  • p. 203 …The primary attribute of an advanced intelligent civilization is its ability to create its own environment…
  • p. 204 …Menzel became acting Director of Harvard College Observatory and, in 1954, was advanced to the Directorship…
  • p. 207 …approach it or advances as you move away. As we look over the Air Force files…
  • p. 210 …Or at least that is the com- mon argument advanced by UFO buffs. Radar is cursed…
  • p. 212 …Life Member of American Association for the Advancement of Science. Professional Organizational Activities: State delegate to…
  • p. 217 …our level of advancement? As noted in the Special Report of the USAF Scientific Advisory Board…
  • p. 219 …Friedman has a relatively unique background in advanced technology, hav- ing been actively involved in the…
  • p. 222 …the existence of advanced civilizations. We frequently forget that the resolution of present photographs of the…
  • p. 223 …36, 37) and the American Association for the Advancement of Science is planning a UFO seminar…
  • p. 224 …reason, would not examine the data relevant to UFOs or advanced technology. Marcowitz was totally wrong…
  • p. 225 …reason, would not examine the data relevant to UFOs or advanced technology. Marcowitz was totally wrong…
  • p. 226 …B., "The Phenomenological Aspects of Magnetogasdynamic Re-entry." Presented at the 10th Midwestern Mechanics Conference, Colorado…
  • p. 227 …not alone in the Universe and surely some civilizations are more advanced than ours, but interstellar…
  • p. 233 …possible sites in advance, we could simply move in to recover the desired information after an…
  • p. 234 …The effectiveness of the proposed procedure would depend very heavily upon the amount of thought, care…
  • p. 237 …listed in advance on a 'standardized rating sheet. However this part of the experiment will not…
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sages to the souls who presently claim
contact!
V. Secret Weapons
It is possible that secret devices
being tested by earthly governments
are misinterpreted as extraterrestrial
machines. That this explantion might
account for the phenomenon as a
whole is, however, quite unreasonable.
To begin with, the performances of the
UFO's makes our present rockets ap-
pear puny indeed. Could any modern
government suppress such a capability
for nearly 20 years (since 1947)?
Most convincing is the fact that the
UFO phenomenon goes way back into
history. UFO enthusiasts, for example,
often cite the first two chapters of the
Book of Ezekiel in the Old Testament
as an excellent example of a flying
saucer sighting, (Menzel and Boyd,
1963, indicate that it was probably a
sundog, but this is a far-fetched ex-
planation for the details reported by
Ezekiel]
Vallee (1965) documents the sight-
ings previous to 1947. He states that
he has on file more than 300 UFO
sightings prior to the 20th century, al-
though he apologizes because he has
never had the time to make a thorough
search. He considers his cases to be
only a small sample of those which
might be available. They were care-
fully chosen for their high quality,
roughly conforming to the criteria of
good sightings described above. Some
60 of these 300 accounts occurred
previous to 1800, and the remainder
were recorded during the 19th century.
The great majority of these more re-
cent accounts were recorded in the sci-
entific literature, particularly that of
astronomy (often in the annals of the
various astronomical observatories). It
is important to emphasize that these
are accounts which are not readily ex-
plainable as natural phenomena.
Classic, for example, are the observa-
tions in Nuremberg (April 14, 1561)
and in Basale (August 7, 1566) which
have been analyzed in some detail by
Jung (1959). Both of these sightings
involved large inclined tubes in the sky
from which spheres originated, an
event occurring sometimes in more re-
cent times (Vallee, 1965, cites 13 ex-
amples between 1959 and 1964).
Spheres and discs appeared to fight
each other in aerial dances. The in-
habitants of these two relatively large
cities observed this strange pheno-
menon for a long interval of time on
the dates given.
A great attempt was made to con-
sider the scientific accounts of the 19th
century in terms of the natural uni-
verse. They were referred to as inter-
esting cases of ball lightning or bolide
meteors. Nevertheless, the descrip-
tions are of discs and wheels and the
like, and the behavior follows very
closely that of the modern UFO. These
"meteors" would move slowly, appear
to hover, change directions, accelerate
at great speeds, have an apparent di-
ameter two or three times that of the
full moon, etc. In one instance, called
ball lightning, an object slowly
emerged from the ocean, moved
against the wind, hovered close to the
ship from which it was observed, and
then rushed away in the sky and dis-
appeared in the southeast (for details,
see Vallees book, 1965).
Sightings during the early part of
this century were relatively few. The
so-called Miracle of Fatima (Vallee,
1965; Walsh, 1947), which took place
on October 13, 1917, in a field at Fa-
tima, a small village some 62 miles
north of Lisbon, Portugal, is a fascinat-
ing tale, to say the least. Today it
would be considered a contactee story,
since three children were supposedly
contacted at monthly intervals (always
on the 13th of the month), beginning
in May, by a beautiful, "transparent"
woman dressed in white, who arrived
in a globe of light. Following the first
visit, other witnesses besides the chil-
dren observed strange events (a buz-
zing noise, etc.), but only the children
saw the "vision." At the time of the
miracle itself, some 70,000 people were
gathered in the field by Fatima to wait
for the promised sign. It had been
raining when suddenly the "sun" ap-
peared through the dense cloud cover.
It was a strange sun, however, looking
like a flattened disc with a very definite
contour, not appearing as a dazzling
object, but rather having a clear,
changing brightness which one could
compare to a pearl. The disc began
turning, rotating with increasing speed
as the crowd began to cry with anguish.
It then began falling toward the earth
"reddish and bloody, threatening to
crush everybody under its fiery wake."
After an interval of dancing before
the crowd, it retreated back through
the clouds and disappeared forever. It
would be difficult to imagine a sighting
which fits the above criteria better than
this one. It is also difficult to imagine
that the Fatima "sun" was a secret
weapon being developed by Russia or
the United States!
Some Representative Sightings
Since the study of the UFO's must
be based on the reports, let us consider
a few sightings exemplifying various
points.
I. The Arnold Sighting, Mt. Rainier,
Washington, June 24, 1947. Although
Vallee (1965) calls our attention to a
fascinating wave of sightings in Scan-
dinavia during the summer of 1946, it
did not occur to anyone at that time
to consider these as extraterrestrial
spaceships, but only as secret rockets
being developed by Russia or the
United States. The current sightings
date back to that of Kenneth Arnold.
Other better sightings exist for the same
period, and even for several days be-
fore (as early as April), but Arnold
turned his story over to the newspapers,
the term "flying saucer" was coined,
and the world's attention was focused
on the phenomenon.
Arnold saw a formation of silvery
discs flying from one peak or ridge to
another around Mount Rainier in the
state of Washington. By timing the
elapsed period from one landmark to
another, he was able to estimate their
speed at not less than 1,200 miles per
hour. Menzel and Boyd (1963) "ex-
plain" Arnold's sighting as a mirage
brought about by inversion layers in
the atmosphere which made the peaks
appear to be separated from the moun-
tains below them. Presumably, their
apparent motion would be due to the
motion of Arnold's airplane. A second
explanation proposed by these authors
is that Arnold saw the lens-shaped
clouds which sometimes occur in the
area. They present pictures of such
clouds (which look exactly like lens-
shaped clouds and not at all like the
objects described by Arnold). They
further cast aspersions upon Arnold's
reliability as a witness by describing in
some detail his subsequent actions in
attempts to get publicity, etc.
Arnold is supported in his story,
however, by the fact that it fits per-
fectly into the pattern of sightings dur-
ing that period. Various authors (Hall,
1964; Lorenzen, 1962) have summa-
rized these events, and among them a
recurring theme is that of formations

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