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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
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sages to the souls who presently claim
contact!
V. Secret Weapons
It is possible that secret devices
being tested by earthly governments
are misinterpreted as extraterrestrial
machines. That this explantion might
account for the phenomenon as a
whole is, however, quite unreasonable.
To begin with, the performances of the
UFO's makes our present rockets ap-
pear puny indeed. Could any modern
government suppress such a capability
for nearly 20 years (since 1947)?
Most convincing is the fact that the
UFO phenomenon goes way back into
history. UFO enthusiasts, for example,
often cite the first two chapters of the
Book of Ezekiel in the Old Testament
as an excellent example of a flying
saucer sighting, (Menzel and Boyd,
1963, indicate that it was probably a
sundog, but this is a far-fetched ex-
planation for the details reported by
Ezekiel]
Vallee (1965) documents the sight-
ings previous to 1947. He states that
he has on file more than 300 UFO
sightings prior to the 20th century, al-
though he apologizes because he has
never had the time to make a thorough
search. He considers his cases to be
only a small sample of those which
might be available. They were care-
fully chosen for their high quality,
roughly conforming to the criteria of
good sightings described above. Some
60 of these 300 accounts occurred
previous to 1800, and the remainder
were recorded during the 19th century.
The great majority of these more re-
cent accounts were recorded in the sci-
entific literature, particularly that of
astronomy (often in the annals of the
various astronomical observatories). It
is important to emphasize that these
are accounts which are not readily ex-
plainable as natural phenomena.
Classic, for example, are the observa-
tions in Nuremberg (April 14, 1561)
and in Basale (August 7, 1566) which
have been analyzed in some detail by
Jung (1959). Both of these sightings
involved large inclined tubes in the sky
from which spheres originated, an
event occurring sometimes in more re-
cent times (Vallee, 1965, cites 13 ex-
amples between 1959 and 1964).
Spheres and discs appeared to fight
each other in aerial dances. The in-
habitants of these two relatively large
cities observed this strange pheno-
menon for a long interval of time on
the dates given.
A great attempt was made to con-
sider the scientific accounts of the 19th
century in terms of the natural uni-
verse. They were referred to as inter-
esting cases of ball lightning or bolide
meteors. Nevertheless, the descrip-
tions are of discs and wheels and the
like, and the behavior follows very
closely that of the modern UFO. These
"meteors" would move slowly, appear
to hover, change directions, accelerate
at great speeds, have an apparent di-
ameter two or three times that of the
full moon, etc. In one instance, called
ball lightning, an object slowly
emerged from the ocean, moved
against the wind, hovered close to the
ship from which it was observed, and
then rushed away in the sky and dis-
appeared in the southeast (for details,
see Vallees book, 1965).
Sightings during the early part of
this century were relatively few. The
so-called Miracle of Fatima (Vallee,
1965; Walsh, 1947), which took place
on October 13, 1917, in a field at Fa-
tima, a small village some 62 miles
north of Lisbon, Portugal, is a fascinat-
ing tale, to say the least. Today it
would be considered a contactee story,
since three children were supposedly
contacted at monthly intervals (always
on the 13th of the month), beginning
in May, by a beautiful, "transparent"
woman dressed in white, who arrived
in a globe of light. Following the first
visit, other witnesses besides the chil-
dren observed strange events (a buz-
zing noise, etc.), but only the children
saw the "vision." At the time of the
miracle itself, some 70,000 people were
gathered in the field by Fatima to wait
for the promised sign. It had been
raining when suddenly the "sun" ap-
peared through the dense cloud cover.
It was a strange sun, however, looking
like a flattened disc with a very definite
contour, not appearing as a dazzling
object, but rather having a clear,
changing brightness which one could
compare to a pearl. The disc began
turning, rotating with increasing speed
as the crowd began to cry with anguish.
It then began falling toward the earth
"reddish and bloody, threatening to
crush everybody under its fiery wake."
After an interval of dancing before
the crowd, it retreated back through
the clouds and disappeared forever. It
would be difficult to imagine a sighting
which fits the above criteria better than
this one. It is also difficult to imagine
that the Fatima "sun" was a secret
weapon being developed by Russia or
the United States!
Some Representative Sightings
Since the study of the UFO's must
be based on the reports, let us consider
a few sightings exemplifying various
points.
I. The Arnold Sighting, Mt. Rainier,
Washington, June 24, 1947. Although
Vallee (1965) calls our attention to a
fascinating wave of sightings in Scan-
dinavia during the summer of 1946, it
did not occur to anyone at that time
to consider these as extraterrestrial
spaceships, but only as secret rockets
being developed by Russia or the
United States. The current sightings
date back to that of Kenneth Arnold.
Other better sightings exist for the same
period, and even for several days be-
fore (as early as April), but Arnold
turned his story over to the newspapers,
the term "flying saucer" was coined,
and the world's attention was focused
on the phenomenon.
Arnold saw a formation of silvery
discs flying from one peak or ridge to
another around Mount Rainier in the
state of Washington. By timing the
elapsed period from one landmark to
another, he was able to estimate their
speed at not less than 1,200 miles per
hour. Menzel and Boyd (1963) "ex-
plain" Arnold's sighting as a mirage
brought about by inversion layers in
the atmosphere which made the peaks
appear to be separated from the moun-
tains below them. Presumably, their
apparent motion would be due to the
motion of Arnold's airplane. A second
explanation proposed by these authors
is that Arnold saw the lens-shaped
clouds which sometimes occur in the
area. They present pictures of such
clouds (which look exactly like lens-
shaped clouds and not at all like the
objects described by Arnold). They
further cast aspersions upon Arnold's
reliability as a witness by describing in
some detail his subsequent actions in
attempts to get publicity, etc.
Arnold is supported in his story,
however, by the fact that it fits per-
fectly into the pattern of sightings dur-
ing that period. Various authors (Hall,
1964; Lorenzen, 1962) have summa-
rized these events, and among them a
recurring theme is that of formations

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