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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

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This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
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Fig. 2. Eight sightings in France for Sep-
tember 24, 1964 (Michel, 1958) as re-
ported in France-Soir, Paris-Presse, and
LaCroix (Sept. 26 and 28). A ninth sight-
ing at Lantefortain-les-Baroches in north-
ern France is not shown on the map.
Sightings at LePuy and Langeac do not
occur on the line, but the other six fall so
close to the great circle arc indicated that
no deviation can be detected on a Michelin
map with a scale of 1:1,000,000. Circum-
stances of the six sightings on the line
were very briefly as follows: Vichy, after-
noon: Football players practicing in a
stadium and spectators saw an elliptical,
cigar-shaped object cross the sky swiftly
and silently. Gelles, early night: The wit-
nesses saw a luminous, cigar-shaped object
cross the sky at fairly high speed and with-
out noise. Ussel, about 11 p.m.: A lumi-
nous red object rose above the horizon and
dived, at high speed, toward M. Cisterne,
who was driving his tractor back to the
barn. The object approached so closely
that he jumped from the tractor and lay
terrified in the field. The object hovered a
few yards above the road, and in front of
the tractor, remaining motionless for sev-
eral minutes in complete silence. Surround-
ings were illuminated with a reddish light.
The UFO then flew over the tractor and
disappeared over the horizon in a few sec-
onds. Two other people also saw the ob-
ject, and leaves at the top of an ash tree,
near where the object reportedly had
hovered, were dried and curled. Tulle, 11
p.m.: M. Besse, with the aid of high-
powered binoculars, watched a luminous
object move rapidly in the sky, changing
color from reddish to white and then to
green. Lencouacq, nightfall: A single wit-
ness watched a luminous object arrive at
high speed in silence, hover above a
meadow, and then leave again at high
speed. Bayonne, afternoon: Many people
watched three elliptical objects, metallic in
appearance, hover in the sky, and then
move away very rapidly,
likely that we are not dealing with a
conventional object misinterpreted. The
detail usually precludes this. In such a
case, the UFO could be an extraterres-
trial spaceship or it could fit into one
of the categories discussed below.
III. Psychological Phenomena
Can the UFO's be pure figments of
the mind — hallucinations, dreams,
_and the like? Probably there are cases
on which this is the proper explana-
tion, but it is a difficult one to apply
to situations in which many witnesses
describe with reasonable uniformity a
single UFO. In such cases, the psy-
chological explanation would have to
fall back on areas such as extra-
sensory perception, which are really
not much more respectable in modern
science than spaceships from Mars. In
cases in which radar observes the ob-
ject at the same IIime that it is ob-
served visually%* rt is photographed,
we would have to postulate that one
mind can project an object into the
heavens in such a way that instruments
such as radar and the camera detect it.
This would be as exciting as spaceships!
Certainly we do not know all there
is to know about the operation of the
human mind, so this hypothesis cannot
be completely eliminated. And even if
the UFO's are spaceships, psychologi-
cal factors play an important part in
the phenomenon. Nevertheless, this
hypothesis is not really satisfying.
Probably the most detailed study of the
UFO's by a psychologist was carried
out by Jung (1959). He was able to
document a great many extremely fas-
cinating psychological implications of
the UFO. In his final conclusion, how-
ever, he could only state that psycho-
logical explanations were not sufficient
for the phenomenon as a whole.
IV. Hoaxes or Lies
An obvious and straightforward ex-
planation of the UFO's is that the wit-
nesses are lying or that the object is a
hoax. Yet the Air Force, always
acutely aware of this possibility, ex-
plained only a very small percentage
of the cases which they investigated in
this way. Often it is very difficult to
imagine that a hoax is involved. The
witnesses give all of the outward signs
of being extremely sincere; often they
are emotionally upset by their recent
experience. Frequently, their back-
ground and general competence seem
to argue strongly against the idea of
hoax. Furthermore, in sightings in
which hundreds and even thousands of
witnesses are involved (and a few such
sightings are on record), one must re-
ject the idea that all the witnesses were
lying. If a hoax were involved, it would
have to be the object itself.
Before completely eliminating this
explanation, we must remember that a
hoax can be amazingly effective. I saw
the great Blackstone on a stage appar-
ently pass a rapidly moving bandsaw
blade directly through the neck of an
assistant in a trance. A block of wood
below the neck was sawed in half
amidst much noise and flying sawdust.
Yet this was admittedly a hoax. Would
it be possible to some way cause an
illusion in the sky which could com-
pletely fool hundreds of witnesses? I
cannot absolutely say that it would not.
On the other hand, in many casesopro-
ducing such an illusion would appear
to be almost as great a feat as building
a flying saucer itself.
One aspect of the UFO story does
seem to be deeply involved in hoax.
This is the so-called contactee cult.
Many people now located over much
of the world claim to have had direct
contact with the flying-saucer people.
(Adamski and Leslie, 1958; UFO In-
ternational).
Perhaps the contactee is informed
by mental telepathy that he should re-
port promptly to a certain lonely spot
in the desert. Upon obeying, he is met
by a flying saucer whose occupants are,
as a rule, beautifully humanoid and
who frequently take him into their
confidence by allowing him to photo-
graph themselves and their craft, invit-
ing him in for a look at the control
panels, and perhaps taking him for a
quick spin, sometimes to Mars or
Venus but best of all to the mys-
terious planet on the other side of the
sun, unobservable from mother earth.
Everything about these stories seems
to cry hoax. The proof is typically a
series of photographs (which could
easily be fraudulent) and copious
quantities of pseudoscience. Someone
who had really contacted visitors from
another world should surely be able to
do better than that. Why should visi-
tors from another world bother with
such obscure representatives of the
human race, anyway? Their message
is always that man must cease his wars
or be destroyed, but why should such
an important message be given to
someone who is bound to be considered
a liar when he delivers it?
It is interesting to consider the pos-
sibility that the contactees are genu-
ine. When considering the UFO phe-
nomenon, all sorts of wild alternatives
come to mind. If the extraterrestrials
wanted to be ignored by the scientific
community on earth, they cotIld hardly
choose a better and more effective way
than the delivering of profound mes-

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