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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

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This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 7 …of advanced technological ma- chinery manned by some kind of intelligence, that is, the extrater- restrial…
  • p. 9 …American Association for the Advancement of Science; Astronomy Society(secretary). Specialty: Astrophysics. Fields of Interest: Stellar…
  • p. 19 …The Air Force has no evidence that UFO's are extra-terrestrial or rep- resent advanced…
  • p. 24 18 (The biography of Dr.McDonald follows:) DR. JAMES E. MCDONAI,D Born: Duluth, Minn., May…
  • p. 29 …from some advanced technology sufficiently advanced to do what we cannot do in the sense of…
  • p. 32 …The possibility that these are extraterrestrial devices, that we are dealing with surveillance from some advanced…
  • p. 40 …THE UNCONVENTIONAL NATURE OF THE UFO PROBLEM To both laymen and scientists, the impressive progress that…
  • p. 48 …At first, they thought it was a jet, whose exhaust was somehow accounting for the advancing…
  • p. 59 …advanced civilization of extraterrestrial origin, the pattern of the observa- tions, the motivation of the surveillance…
  • p. 75 …To ignore most of the salient features of a sighting in order to advance an easy…
  • p. 94 …Now, if we want to assess the likelihood that there are intelligentcivilizations somewhere in advance of…
  • p. 95 …be far in advance of our own,and this,therefore raises the question of how likely…
  • p. 96 …that an advance civilization comes here very rarely. But I again emphasize the great uncertainty in…
  • p. 97 91 So, to conclude what I understand is the main reason why this committee has asked…
  • p. 100 …the possibility of its development by other civilizations. But if each of, say, a million advanced…
  • p. 101 …a race of advanced and benign creatures were devoted to our welfare. The interest in unidentified…
  • p. 111 …The possible value of contact for purposes of advancing our knowledge of our technology. Let's…
  • p. 112 …again the same possible great value from under- standing the phenomenon in order to advance our…
  • p. 116 …We must then concern ourselves with the possible consequences of contact with technologically advanced civilizations whose…
  • p. 117 111 the task. We must also 'be concerned with the risks of panic resulting in people…
  • p. 124 …Gravitation remains one of the enigmas of modern science, although there have been some advances in…
  • p. 125 …This will depend upon advances in many fields of science. Some of the things required will…
  • p. 130 …Gravitation remains one of the enigmas of modern science, although there have been some advances in…
  • p. 132 …Baker's professional society memberships include the American Associa- tion for the Advancement of Science, Phi…
  • p. 140 …There have been many debates on the technical capabilities or limits on the capabilities of advanced…
  • p. 141 135 area of forecasting the social characteristics of an advanced extrater- restrial civilization. Philosophers, social scientists…
  • p. 142 …in the environs of the earth, or to make dubious speculations either concerning "their" advanced scientific…
  • p. 143 …the gross characteristics of an advanced civilization. These studies (probablynot Government funded) should include the social…
  • p. 150 …Applications and Advanced Topics, Academic Press, New York, pp. 112-115 and pp. 376 to 392…
  • p. 153 147 00015 "Recent Advances in Astrodynamics," (with Samuel Herrick), Jet Propul- sion, 28, No. 10, 1958…
  • p. 154 …00040 "State-of-the-Art-1960 Astrodynamics,"Astronautics, 5, No. 11, 30, 1960. 00041 "Novel Orbit…
  • p. 157 …Makemson) 00071 Astrodynamics - Applications and Advanced Topics, Academic Press, New York, 1967. 00072 "Recent Advances in…
  • p. 171 …In the past five years, he has advanced from assistant bookkeeper to teller to head teller…
  • p. 174 …He has no desire to advance any further up the bank totem pole, says he never…
  • p. 189 …advanced radar systems air being de- vekii2ed for our missile defense systems, such as the ALTAR…
  • p. 190 …of the Earth or to make very dubious speculations 191, t101 either concerning "their" advanced scientific…
  • p. 203 …The primary attribute of an advanced intelligent civilization is its ability to create its own environment…
  • p. 204 …Menzel became acting Director of Harvard College Observatory and, in 1954, was advanced to the Directorship…
  • p. 207 …approach it or advances as you move away. As we look over the Air Force files…
  • p. 210 …Or at least that is the com- mon argument advanced by UFO buffs. Radar is cursed…
  • p. 212 …Life Member of American Association for the Advancement of Science. Professional Organizational Activities: State delegate to…
  • p. 217 …our level of advancement? As noted in the Special Report of the USAF Scientific Advisory Board…
  • p. 219 …Friedman has a relatively unique background in advanced technology, hav- ing been actively involved in the…
  • p. 222 …the existence of advanced civilizations. We frequently forget that the resolution of present photographs of the…
  • p. 223 …36, 37) and the American Association for the Advancement of Science is planning a UFO seminar…
  • p. 224 …reason, would not examine the data relevant to UFOs or advanced technology. Marcowitz was totally wrong…
  • p. 225 …reason, would not examine the data relevant to UFOs or advanced technology. Marcowitz was totally wrong…
  • p. 226 …B., "The Phenomenological Aspects of Magnetogasdynamic Re-entry." Presented at the 10th Midwestern Mechanics Conference, Colorado…
  • p. 227 …not alone in the Universe and surely some civilizations are more advanced than ours, but interstellar…
  • p. 233 …possible sites in advance, we could simply move in to recover the desired information after an…
  • p. 234 …The effectiveness of the proposed procedure would depend very heavily upon the amount of thought, care…
  • p. 237 …listed in advance on a 'standardized rating sheet. However this part of the experiment will not…
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Fig. 1. UFO sightings and the oppositions
of Mars. The dotted line represents "re-
liable" sightings in the files of the Aerial
Phenomena Research Organization, 3190
E. Kleindale Road, Tucson, Arizona. They
were supplied by C. E. Lorenzen. The solid
line represents sightings assembled from
published reports by M. G. Quincy and
presented by Jacques and Janine Vallee
(1962). Quincy showed no records for
1964, and these were obtained from
Michel (1958). Obviously there is no cor-
relation between UFO sightings and the
distance to Mars in 1947 and 1957, but the
Vallies calculated correlation co-efficients
for the other years and found that the ob-
served correlation would be expected to
occur due to chance alone less than one
time in a thousand trials (they transposed
all sightings two months to account for the
lag apparent in 1952, 1954, and 1956). It
is interesting to note that the two sighting
curves agree so closely, although they
obviously include many different data. A
third curve, prepared by E. Buelta in Bar-
celona, Spain, also agrees closely.
physical activity of certain UFO's
(Menzel and Boyd, 1963). In several
"good" sightings (those which, for rea-
sons discussed below, do not readily
fit any of the remaining four hypothe-
ses), UFO's have appeared to acceler-
ate at tremendous rates or even make
right-angle turns while traveling at
speeds of several hundred or thousand
miles per hour. Although they move in
the atmosphere at velocities which
surely exceed that of sound, no sonic
booms are heard (they are often essen-
tially silent) nor do they appear to
burn up with frictional heat. The skep-
tic says: "Granted that we have a lot
left to learn about our universe, we
surely don't expect the fundamental
laws to be rejected. That we may re-
fine them as Einstein did, it is true, but
inertia is inertia, and a right-angle turn
at several thousand miles per hour is
a simple physical impossibility."
This may be the most compelling
argument against the spaceship hy-
pothesis, but there are two counter-
arguments. First, one can simply re-
ject the above statement. I do not
see how Newton's laws could be so
flagrantly violated, but others (Loren-
zen, 1962; Michel, 1958; Vallee and
Vallee, 1966) have come up with
various suggestions. Perhaps inertia is
the gravitational interaction between
an object and all other objects in the
universe. If this gravitational attrac-
tion could some way be severed (some
mysterious antigravity shield surround-
ing the spacecraft, for example!), then
right-angle turns at high speeds might
be feasible. Would the surrounding
antigravity field also nullify the sound
barrier problem? Some think so. I
haven't the faintest idea, but we could
be wrong about what is impossible.
Second, one might remember that not
all UFO's perform "impossible" feats.
The topic is sufficiently interesting if
only one UFO proves to be a spaceship
from Mars!
Another argument against the space-
ship idea concerns the lack of formal
contact with the UFO occupants. Since
visiting spaceships ought to be piloted
by some sort of intelligent beings,
wouldn't it be reasonable to expect that
they would desire contact with other
intelligent beings, namely us? Or why
hasn't a flying saucer landed on the
United Nations Building to establish
formal diplomatic relations?
This argument assumes that we can
understand the motives of an extra-
terrestrial being. Of course we cannot.
How could we know the minds of such
beingi? To inductively extrapolate
from our own current sociological ap-
proaches to those of other intelligent
entities would be to commit the logical
sin of extrapolation in a most flagrant
manner. It is easy to imagine several
reasons why the extraterrestrials might
not want to contact us. Did they plant
us here as a colony many thousands
of years ago and are carefully observ-
ing our evolutionary development? Do
they envy us for our natural resources
and want to conquer us, although pres-
ent logistic problems make such an ef-
fort impossible? Are they waiting for
us to straighten out our wars and race
problems? Are they simply uninter-
ested in us as contemporaries, prefer-
ring to observe us as specimens? Ento-
mologists study the honeybees very
carefully but make no diplomatic con-
tact with the queen!
InOine the Aborigines of Central
Australia, who are still in the stone
age and who have not even developed
the bow and arrow. They have had no
contact at all with modern civilization.
What happens when a jet plane flies
overhead and one of them observes it?
When he tells of the huge, shiny bird
that didn't flap its wings, had no feet,
made an ear-splitting roar, and even
had smoke coming out of its tail, surely
his fellows assume that he is crazy.
Or if the phenomenon becomes so
common that it must be accepted as
real, they could hardly be expected to
deduce from it the conditions of our
modern civilization, let alone our mo-
tives. "Why," they might ask, "don't
the intelligent beings who guide this
mighty bird land and trade bone nose-
pieces with us?" Actually, many of the
Aborigines, even those who have come
in contact with civilized men, still in-
terpret the airplane in a religious con-
text, as witness the establishment of
the cargo cults among these peoples
(Worsley, 1959).
We cannot, then, eliminate the
spaceship hypothesis, although some
of the arguments against it are quite
impressive. We should, in deference to
the scientific method, examine with a
completely open mind any evidence
which might be marshalled in favor of
the hypothesis. Let us consider the
four alternatives to it.
11. Conventional Phenomena
Misinterpreted
Given certain special circumstances,
nearly anyone can be confused and
amazed by the appearance of some
conventional object which under other
circumstances might cause no bewil-
derment whatsoever. What psycho-
logical factors lead to such misinter-
pretations? In various instances, re-
ported UFO's have clearly been dem-
onstrated to be balloons, kites, birds,
conventional aircraft, artificial satel-
lites, planets and stars, meteors, clouds,
natural electrical effects such as ball
lightning (Klass 1966), and optical
effects such as reflections, mirages, sun-
dogs, and defractions caused by inver-
sion layers in the atmosphere (see
Menzel and Boyd, 1963, and Air Force
files). Let us consider the level of
certainty in classifying a given sighting
here.
Often, the sighting may be placed
here with absolute certainty. A balloon
reported as a UFO was never out of
sight of its launchers. A perplexing
light in the sky takes form as an air-
plane as its gets closer.

Cases discussed

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