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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
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Fig. 1. UFO sightings and the oppositions
of Mars. The dotted line represents "re-
liable" sightings in the files of the Aerial
Phenomena Research Organization, 3190
E. Kleindale Road, Tucson, Arizona. They
were supplied by C. E. Lorenzen. The solid
line represents sightings assembled from
published reports by M. G. Quincy and
presented by Jacques and Janine Vallee
(1962). Quincy showed no records for
1964, and these were obtained from
Michel (1958). Obviously there is no cor-
relation between UFO sightings and the
distance to Mars in 1947 and 1957, but the
Vallies calculated correlation co-efficients
for the other years and found that the ob-
served correlation would be expected to
occur due to chance alone less than one
time in a thousand trials (they transposed
all sightings two months to account for the
lag apparent in 1952, 1954, and 1956). It
is interesting to note that the two sighting
curves agree so closely, although they
obviously include many different data. A
third curve, prepared by E. Buelta in Bar-
celona, Spain, also agrees closely.
physical activity of certain UFO's
(Menzel and Boyd, 1963). In several
"good" sightings (those which, for rea-
sons discussed below, do not readily
fit any of the remaining four hypothe-
ses), UFO's have appeared to acceler-
ate at tremendous rates or even make
right-angle turns while traveling at
speeds of several hundred or thousand
miles per hour. Although they move in
the atmosphere at velocities which
surely exceed that of sound, no sonic
booms are heard (they are often essen-
tially silent) nor do they appear to
burn up with frictional heat. The skep-
tic says: "Granted that we have a lot
left to learn about our universe, we
surely don't expect the fundamental
laws to be rejected. That we may re-
fine them as Einstein did, it is true, but
inertia is inertia, and a right-angle turn
at several thousand miles per hour is
a simple physical impossibility."
This may be the most compelling
argument against the spaceship hy-
pothesis, but there are two counter-
arguments. First, one can simply re-
ject the above statement. I do not
see how Newton's laws could be so
flagrantly violated, but others (Loren-
zen, 1962; Michel, 1958; Vallee and
Vallee, 1966) have come up with
various suggestions. Perhaps inertia is
the gravitational interaction between
an object and all other objects in the
universe. If this gravitational attrac-
tion could some way be severed (some
mysterious antigravity shield surround-
ing the spacecraft, for example!), then
right-angle turns at high speeds might
be feasible. Would the surrounding
antigravity field also nullify the sound
barrier problem? Some think so. I
haven't the faintest idea, but we could
be wrong about what is impossible.
Second, one might remember that not
all UFO's perform "impossible" feats.
The topic is sufficiently interesting if
only one UFO proves to be a spaceship
from Mars!
Another argument against the space-
ship idea concerns the lack of formal
contact with the UFO occupants. Since
visiting spaceships ought to be piloted
by some sort of intelligent beings,
wouldn't it be reasonable to expect that
they would desire contact with other
intelligent beings, namely us? Or why
hasn't a flying saucer landed on the
United Nations Building to establish
formal diplomatic relations?
This argument assumes that we can
understand the motives of an extra-
terrestrial being. Of course we cannot.
How could we know the minds of such
beingi? To inductively extrapolate
from our own current sociological ap-
proaches to those of other intelligent
entities would be to commit the logical
sin of extrapolation in a most flagrant
manner. It is easy to imagine several
reasons why the extraterrestrials might
not want to contact us. Did they plant
us here as a colony many thousands
of years ago and are carefully observ-
ing our evolutionary development? Do
they envy us for our natural resources
and want to conquer us, although pres-
ent logistic problems make such an ef-
fort impossible? Are they waiting for
us to straighten out our wars and race
problems? Are they simply uninter-
ested in us as contemporaries, prefer-
ring to observe us as specimens? Ento-
mologists study the honeybees very
carefully but make no diplomatic con-
tact with the queen!
InOine the Aborigines of Central
Australia, who are still in the stone
age and who have not even developed
the bow and arrow. They have had no
contact at all with modern civilization.
What happens when a jet plane flies
overhead and one of them observes it?
When he tells of the huge, shiny bird
that didn't flap its wings, had no feet,
made an ear-splitting roar, and even
had smoke coming out of its tail, surely
his fellows assume that he is crazy.
Or if the phenomenon becomes so
common that it must be accepted as
real, they could hardly be expected to
deduce from it the conditions of our
modern civilization, let alone our mo-
tives. "Why," they might ask, "don't
the intelligent beings who guide this
mighty bird land and trade bone nose-
pieces with us?" Actually, many of the
Aborigines, even those who have come
in contact with civilized men, still in-
terpret the airplane in a religious con-
text, as witness the establishment of
the cargo cults among these peoples
(Worsley, 1959).
We cannot, then, eliminate the
spaceship hypothesis, although some
of the arguments against it are quite
impressive. We should, in deference to
the scientific method, examine with a
completely open mind any evidence
which might be marshalled in favor of
the hypothesis. Let us consider the
four alternatives to it.
11. Conventional Phenomena
Misinterpreted
Given certain special circumstances,
nearly anyone can be confused and
amazed by the appearance of some
conventional object which under other
circumstances might cause no bewil-
derment whatsoever. What psycho-
logical factors lead to such misinter-
pretations? In various instances, re-
ported UFO's have clearly been dem-
onstrated to be balloons, kites, birds,
conventional aircraft, artificial satel-
lites, planets and stars, meteors, clouds,
natural electrical effects such as ball
lightning (Klass 1966), and optical
effects such as reflections, mirages, sun-
dogs, and defractions caused by inver-
sion layers in the atmosphere (see
Menzel and Boyd, 1963, and Air Force
files). Let us consider the level of
certainty in classifying a given sighting
here.
Often, the sighting may be placed
here with absolute certainty. A balloon
reported as a UFO was never out of
sight of its launchers. A perplexing
light in the sky takes form as an air-
plane as its gets closer.

Cases discussed

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