Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

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Each
of
you
are experts in
one
or
more
disciplines.
I am
sure
there
are
a
number
of
things
on
your shopping
lists
for
additional
funding.
I
would
be
interested
to
know
how
this
effort
that
is
proposed
here
might
fit
into
your
lists
of
priorities.
Thank
you,
Mr.
Chairman.
Mr.
ROUSH.
Thank
you,
Mr.
Rumsfeld.
Mr.
Miller.
Chairman
MILLER.
Doctor,
you
mentioned
a number
of
things—pop-
ulation studies
at
least.
A
great
many
of
these
are
carried
out
not
byGovernment
directly,
but
in the National
Science
Foundation
or
through
the National
Academy
of
Sciences
or
scientific
bodies
them-
selves.
Do
you
think,
I
merely
offer
this
as
a
suggestion,
perhaps
the
sci-
entific
community
try to
encourage
NSF
or
the
scientific
societies
dealing in
this
field
to take the
initiative
in
doing
this,
rather
than
to
wait
for
Government
to
take the
initiative?
Dr.
HYNEK.
I
know,
of
course,
most
of the
bodies
you
have
men-
tioned are
funded
by
the
Government anyway. Most
or
a
great part
of
our
scientific
research
today has
to
be so
funded.
Private
sources
are
certainly
not
sufficient.
And,
therefore,
I
think
it
is
rather aca-
demic,
really,
to
worry
too
much
about
who
does
it.
It
is
more
a
ques-tion
of
who
is
going
to
pay
for
it.
We
have
a
rather
interesting situation
here,
as
Congressman
Rums-
feld
has
already pointed
out.
This
is
one of
those strange
situations
in
which
the
cart
is
sort
of
before
the
horse.
Generally
this
results
in
the
scientific
laboratories
and
the
results
of
the
studies
of
scientists
finally
come
to
the
public
attention,
but
here
we
have
the other
situa-
tion.
It
is
the
public pressure,
the
public
wants
to
know
actually,
more
than
the
scientists,
at
the
moment.
So
you
are facing
public
pressures,
even,
definitely
more
than
scientific
pressures at
the
moment.
Chairman
MILLER.
Unfortunately
in
some
of our
problems, for
ex-
ample
the
NASA
problems,
where
the
public
is
indifferent,
the matter
of
waste
disposal, pollution,
health,
and
these things.
They
are
quiteindifferent
to
them, and
it
takes
a
lot
of
effort
to
get
them
interested
in
them
sometimes.
The
committee has
studied
this
on
several occasions,
but
we
have
generally
had a group
of
the
scientific
community
behind us
to givepressure,
to bring
pressure,
to get
some
of
these
things done.
Dr.
HYNEK.
I
think
we
will see,
sir,
in
this
testimony
today
that
you
will
find
a
corps of
scientists
stand
ready
to
do
this.
In
fact,
as
I
mentioned
in
my
testimony,
I
have
private
information
from a
verylarge
number
of
scientists
who
are
interested.
Chairman
MILLER.
I
think
this
one of
the values
of
the
symposium.
Mr.RousH. Are
there other questions
or
comments?
(No
response.)
Our
next
participant
is
Dr. James
E.
McDonald. Dr. McDonald
is
presently
with the University
of Arizona.
He
is
a
senior physicist,
Institute
of Atmospheric Physics, the University
of Arizona,
and has
had a long
and
distinguished career as
a
scientist.
Dr. McDonald, we
are pleased to
have you as one of our
participants
You may
proceed.