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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
216
Not
at
all.
This
argument
("It's
Impossible")
is
used
when what
should
really
be
said
is
we
don't
know
how
to duplicate
these
maneuvers.
Piston
aircraft
can't
fly
faster
than
the speed
of
sound
and
a
conventional
dynamite
bomb
couldn't
have
wrecked
Hiroshima
and
a
vacuum
tube
circuit
can't
fit
on
the
head
of
a
pin
but
surely
we
don't
say
that
supersonic
flight,
atom
bombs
and
microcircuits
viOlate
the
laws
of
nature or
physics.
Present
aircraft can't
duplicate
UFO
maneuvers;
no
laws
of
physics
have
been
violated
by
UFOs.
13.
Haven't astronomers
proved
that
trips to
other
stars
are
impossible?
Again, the
answer
is
no.
The
studies
12
that conclude that
trips
to
other
stars
are
impossible
are based
upon
false
or
unnecessary
assumptions such
as,
assum-
ing,
that
the
flight
be
at
orbital
velocity.
0
The
one
comprehensive study of
inter-stellar
travel
conducted
by
a
JPL
group
actually
concerned with space hard-
ware
concluded
that
with
present
technology
trips
to
nearby
stars
are
feasible
with
round
trip
times
being
shorter
than
a
man's
lifetime
and
without
violating
the
laws
of
physics.
They
assumed
that staged
vehicles
would be
used having
either
fission
or
fusion propulsion
systems.
14.
Are
fission
and
fusion propulsion
systems
actually
being
developed?
Both
fission
and
fusion
propulsion
systems
for
space
travel
are
under
devel-
opment.
I
have worked on
both.
The
NEVRA
program
has
successfully
tested
a
number
of
nuclear rocket
reactors
suitable
for
use
in
flight
throughout the
solar
system.
Flight rated
systems
offering
substantial
advantages
over chemical
propulsion
systems
could
be ready
in
less
than
a
decade
if
the current
program
at
Aerojet
General,
Westinghouse
Astronuclear
Laboratory,
and Los Alamos
Scientific
Laboratory
is
supported.
References
15 and 16
are
good
reviews
of
the
nuclear rocket
program.
The
fusion
work
is
not
nearly
as
far along
but has
been
productive
at
Aerojet
General
Nucleonics,
San
Ramon,
California.
An
older
review
of
some
of the
aspects
of
this
program
is
given
in
Ref.
17.
15.
Are
these
the only
possibilities?
Not
at
all.
This
is
one
of the
major
flaws
in
the
"non
-believers"
arguments;
they
presume
that
our
technology
is
the
ultimate—a
presumption
made
by
each
generation
of
scientists
in
the
last
75
years
and
proved
wrong
by
the next
gener-ation
of
engineers
and
applied
scientists.
If there
is
one
thing
to
be
learned
from
the
history
of
science
it
is
that
there
will
be
new
and
unpredictable
discoveries
comparable
with, say,
relatively,
nuclear energy,
the
laser, solid
state
physics,
high
field
superconductivity,
etc.
It
is
generally
accepted that
there
are
civiliza-
tions
elsewhere
which
are
much
more
advanced than are
we.
Look what
tech-
nological
progress
we
have
made
in
the
last
100
years.
Who
can
guess
what
we
will
accomplish
in
the
next thousand
years—or
what
others
have
accomplished
in
the
thousand or
million
or
billion
year
start
they
may
have on
us.
We
still
don't
know
about
gravity,
for
example,
no
less
anti
-gravity.
16.
Could
UFOs
be coming
here
from
our
own
solar
system?
They
certainly
could.
We
have no
data
from any
other
body
in
the
solar
system
which
definitely
rules
out
the
existence
of
advanced
civilizations.
We
frequently
forget that the
resolution
of
present
photographs of the other planetary bodies
is
extremely
poor.
As a
matter of
fact,
there
does
seem
to
be
a
direct correlation
between
the
number
of
sighting reports
per
unit
time
and
the
closeness
of
Mars
to
the
earth.
Both have
periodicities
of
about
26
months.
0
We
make
certain
spaceshots at "favorable times".
The
reverse
may
also
be
true
but without
the
restric-
tions
on
payload
and
trajectory
placed
upon us by
our
crude,
inefficient,
space
pro-
pulsion
systems which
no
thoughtful engineer considers
the
ultimate.
17.
Didn't the
Mariner
IV
pictures
prove
there
isn't
any
life
on Mars?
The
Mariner
pictures didn't
provide proof of
life
on
Mars
but they
certainly
didn't
rule
it
out
and were
not
intended
to.
Studies
19
of 10,000 pictures
of earth
taken
from
orbit
with
cameras
having
resolving
power
equivalent to those
onMariner
IV
provided only
one
picture
which
could
be taken
to indicate
that there
is
life
on
the planet
called
earth.
18.
Isn't
it
true that
life
as
we know
it
cannot
exist
on any
other
body
in thesolar
system?
This
statement,
though
repeated
many
times,
\
is
quite obviously untrue.
Con-
sider
for
a moment
the fact that
we
intend to
send
men
to the
moon and by
the
end
of the century to
Mars.
We
expect these
men
to stay for
a
while
and
to returndespite
the fact that
Mars and
thnoon
both supposedly
aren't
fit
for
life
as
we
a
know
it.
One
characteristic
of
an dvanced
technological
civilization is
the
ability
to provide suitable conditions for
life
almost anywhere;
including
under the
Footnotes at the end of
article.

Cases discussed

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