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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
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posal just for the pure joy of attempting to resolve the problem unless it turns
out that the UFO's are irrefutably proven to be extraterrestrial in origin, thereby
gaining incentive as a popular curiosity. A Working Group on UFO's could be
painlessly commissioned, much as other working groups comprised of scientists
and engineers. CONCLUSIONS
If there are UFO's in existence here, and IF they are extraterrestrial, by mere
intuition I seriously doubt that they would be manned. I know of no animal to
take the reported g's undergone by some UFO's. In all due fairness to those who
believe otherwise, we must readily admit that only a few years ago spacecraft,
airplanes, nuclear power, television, human transplants, and many other items
presently taken for granted were "impossible," even deemed foolish for
consideration.
Conditions in our solar system appear to limit life as we know it (the catch
phrase) to Earth, but the probability of almost identical environments just
within the visible universe is extremely high. Even if, for some reason obscure
to me, life must exist "as we know it," there are, in my opinion, innumerable
possibilities of such existence. Manned travel over the required distances would
take life-support systems, fuel, and means of propulsion beyond our present
ability to deliver in time for us to realize results; therefore it must be impossible
if we can't dolt!
Certain publicized activities under contract purport to be concerned with sci-
entific and engineering studies related to UFO's (for example, Raytheon's Auto-
metric Division, Stanford Research Institute, University of California, National
Center for Atmospheric Research, Ford Motor Company, etc.). These may yield
worthwhile results in the UFO study if the primary goal is not to pursue funded
research for its own sake, as is too often the case.
There is only one concrete proposal which I would extend at this time. Either
we admit (1) that past funds are wasted; (2) that our technology is not up to
the job; (3) that we can afford to ignore one of the potentially most significant
"phenomena" in the recorded history of the human race; (4) that we will close
our Winds to that part of human curiosity which seeks to extend our knowledge;
and (5) that we are willing to make these decisions on the flimsiest of evidence,
i.e., for-the-most-part-personal opinions, OR we will make a long-overdue, con-
centrated, unemotional effort to ascertain (1) the existence or non-existence of
hardware UFO's, and if they exist, (2) the origin of UFO's,(3) the means of pro-
pulsion, navigation, and associated operational characteristics of UFO's, (4) the
intent of the presence of UFO's, and (5) surely a multitude of knowledge, and
perhaps greatly extended capability which would result from studying a UFO
craft and communicating with the occupants, if any.
(The biography of Mr. Friedman follows:)
STANTON T. FREEDMAN
Born—July 29,1934, Elizabeth, New Jersey.
B. Sc.—Physics, M. Sc.—Physics, University of Chicago 1955, 1956.
Since 1966—Westinghouse Astronuclear Laboratory, Pittsburgh; NERVA nu-
clear rocket Program—Fellow Scientist concerned primarily with radiation shield-
ing experiments and nuclear instrumentation.
1963-1966—Allison Division, General Motors, Indianapolis, Indiana. Military
Compact Reactor program (responsible for all shielding aspects), magnetohydro-
dynamics, desalination, other projects.
1959-1963—Aerojet General Nucleonics, near San Francisco. Development of
various nuclear systems for space and terrestrial applications; Fusion propul-
sion for space, consultant on radiation shielding.
1956-1959—General Electric, Aircraft Nuclear Propulsion Department, Cincin-
nati. Experimental and analytical aspects of radiation shielding for nuclear
aircraft.
Mr. Friedman has a relatively unique background in advanced technology, hav-
ing been actively involved in the development of all of the following advanced
systems: nuclear aircraft, nuclear power for space, terrestrial nuclear power,
nuclear rockets,fusion rockets.

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