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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
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Air
Force
(and
a
few
scientists)
in
their
proclamations
of
"non-existence."
The
public
has
been
led
to
believe
that
everything
has
been
done
to
either
prove
or
disprove
the
existence
of
UFO's—rubbish!
Available
information
of
a
truly
reliable
nature should tend
to increase
activity,
not
place
it
in
neglect,
or
worse,
in
ridicule.
Classified
(or
"unavailable")
reports,
mostly
by
the
military,
rob the
public
and
scientific
parties
who
are
interested
in
and
willing
to
participate
in
the
UFO
investigations.
How
can
we
even
begin to
evaluate
for
ourselves
if
we
must
depend
nearly
100
percent
on
information
doled
out
by
the
news
media
alone?
Many
scientists
communicate
with
each
other
on
the
subject,
often
at
scientific
meetings
(aside),
but
this
route
is
hardly
sufficient
to
establish
a
recognized
basis
for
realistic
study of
the
problem.
The
current
USAF
trend
seems
to
be
merely
a
statement that
UFO's
do
not
pose
a
threat to
the
security
of
the
United
States,
and
therefore
warrant
neither
credence
nor
further concern. Similar
words
come
from
some
of the
few
Congress-
men
with
whom
I
have
communicated.
The
discovery
of Noah's
Ark
in
Times
Square would
not
necessarily
pose
a
threat to national
security
either,
but
it
would
certainly
be
a
find
worthy
of the
most
intensive investigation
whether
certain individuals
accepted
its
existence
or
not.
REQUIRED
INFORMATION
Is
it
not
obvious
that
what
we
need to
establish
the
existence
or
non-existence
of
UFO's
is
not merely
a
review
of
sighting
incidents,
but
an
implemented
plan
to
acquire
hard
facts?
Rapid,
accurate
reporting
of
sightings
is
obviously
a
valuable
tool
in
studying
UFO
phenomena,
but-
many
of the
most
creditable
observers (military personnel
and
airline
pilots,
for
example)
are not
only
hesitant to
do
so,
they
are
understandably
adamant when
facing the
alternatives
of
silence
versus
inviting
ridicule,
and
possibly
jeopardizing
their
positions.
The
obvious
addition to gathering interview
data
is
to
enlist
the
aid
of
the
impersonal
machine.
Evaluate, compile,
and
catalog reported
data
according to:
time of
day
and
year; atmospheric
conditions
(cloudy,
humid,
temperature,
calm,
and
other
easily
recountable gross
observations).;
geographic
location;
approximate
size,
shape,
altitude, velocity,
heading,
-
maneuvers;
-and
phenomena
reportedly asso-ciated
with
the
UFO
presence.
This
can be
done
with
existing
information.
Up-
date
and
upgrade the
files
with
new
data
by
soliciting
information
(particularlymilitary
and
commercial
pilots).
Then
prepare
a
plan designed
by
scientists,
engineers,
pilots,
and
perhaps
psychologists,
on means
to acquire
instrument
observations
of
UFO's
hopefully
coupled to
visual observations.
Field
-instrument
packages
could
easily
be
placed in
areas
where
UFO
sightings
are
most
concentrated,
perhaps
according
to
the
time of
day
or
year,
atmospheric
conditions,
or
some
factor suspected to
be
related
to
sighting
activity.
Such
packages
might be composed
largely
of
military
"surplus" instrumentation
such
as
an
infrared
scanner,
an
active
rf
unit,
a
wide
-band
electromagnetic
detector,
-a
directional
radiation
counter
and
ionization
gauge,
a
high-speed
photographic
camera,
a
three
-component magnetometer,
and
recording
environmental
devices
(temperature, humidity, barometric
pressure,
etc.).
If
it
became
advantageous
to include
a
higher degree
of
sophistication,
such items as
a
tracking
television
camera,
a
communications
telemetry
system,
a
sensitive
audio
recorder
with
a
directional
antenna might be added.
Deployment and
maintenance of
the
field
package
could
easily
be performed
by
military, university,
or
industrial techni-
cians,
but
all
data
reduction
and
interpretation
should be
done
-by
competent
scientists
familiar
with the
respective
measuring
techniques.
We
should
anticipate
gathering
sufficient
data
leading to proof of the
existence
or
non-existence
of
UFO's, and,
if
they are
real,
the
size
(s), shape
(s),
flight
characteristics
(speed, rates
of turn
and
climb, preferred
direction
of
travel,etc.),
possible
means
of propulsion
and
navigation,
perhaps the
establishment
of communications,
and
eventually their origin.
Questions of expense
and management
responsibilities
immediately
come
to
mind, but
I
think the government would be
surprised
how many
qualified scien-
tists,
engineers,
and
technicians
would be
willing to participate
on
a
low-dollat,
volunteer,
"as can"
basis in support of such
a program.
At
least
an
inexpensive
newsletter could be
distributed to
the
scientific
and
pilot
groups for
comments,
as a
start.
Because of the
history
of wasted funds and unwieldy
publicity asso-
ciated
with the
UFO
problem, the public
may
not be very receptive to such a
pro-

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