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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
199
degree of D.Sc.
from
the
University
of
Denver,
his
Alma
Mater,
and
their
John
Evans
Award
in 1965.)
Dr.
Menzel has
been
a
prolific
writer.
His
books,
articles,
and
scientific
papers
cover
a
broad
field,
and
have
been
translated into
many
languages.
He
has
even
ventured
briefly
into
the
realm
of
science
fiction.
His
book,
"Our
Sun,"
published
by
the
Harvard
University Press,
is
one
of
the
so-called
Harvard
series
on
astronomy
and
a
standard
reference
work,
despite
the fact
that
it
is
written in
popular
style
for the
general
public.
Two
popular
books
on
the
subject
of
Flying
Saucers,
the
second
written
with
Lyle
Boyd
and
published
in 1963,
analyze
the
various
reports
and
demonstrate
conclusively
that
these
highly
controversial
"objects"
are
only various manifestation
of
different
natural
phenomena,
not
machines
from
outer
space.
His
first
book
on
Flying
Saucers
was
translated into
Russian.
He
has
lectured extensively
on UFO's
around
the world,
including
South America
and
Mexico.
Dr.
Menzel's
interest
in
promoting
good
writing
by
scientists,
led
him
to
pro-
duce "Writing
a
Techincal
Paper,"
co-authored
by
Professor
Howard Mumford
Jones
of the
Harvard Department
of English
and
Lyle
Boyd,
a
science
editor.
He
is
also
author of
a
"Field
Guide
to
the
Stars
and
Planets,"
a
popular
hand-
book
for beginning astronomers.
PREPARED STATEMENT BY DONALD
H.
MENZELUFO:
FACT
OR
FICTION?Flying saucers
or
UFO's
have
been with
us
for
a
long
time.
June
24,
1968
marked
the
21st
anniversary of the
sighting
of nine
bright
disks
moving
rapidly
along the
hogback
of
Mount
Rainier.
However,
similar
sightings
go
far
back
'in
history,
where
they
have
assumed
various
forms
for
different
people.
Old
records
refer
to
them as
fiery
dragons,
fiery
chariots,
wills
-o'
-the
-wisp,
jack-o'-
lanterns,
ignis
fatetus,
firedrakes,
fox
-fire,
and
even the
devil himself.
And now a new
legend—a modern
myth—has
arisen
to explain
a new
rash
of mysterious
sightings.
Certain
UFO
buffs
argue
that the
peculiar properties
and
maneuvers
of
these
apparitions,
as
reported
by
reliable
people of
all
kinds,
are
so
remarkable
that only
one
explanation for
them
is
possible.
They must
be
vehicles
from
outer
space,
manned
by
beings
far
more
intelligent
than
we.
because the operators
have
clearly built
vehicles
with
capabilities
far beyondanything
we
can
conceive
of.
On
the face
of
it,
this
reasoning
sounds
much
like
that of Sherlock
Holmes.
who
said
on
several
occasions:
"It
is
an
old
maxim
of
mine
that
when
you have
excluded the
impossible,
whatever
remains,
however
improbable,
must
be
thetruth
!"
I
am
willing
to
go
along with
this
formula, but
only
after
we
have
followed
Holmes and
excluded every
possibility
but
that of
manned
UFO's.
And
we
must
also
show
that
no
further
possible solutions
exist.
The
believers
are
too eager to reach
a
decision.
Their -method
is
simple.
They
try
to
find
someone,
whom
they
can
establish
as
an
authority,
who
will
support
their
views.
They
then quote
and
often
misquote
various
authorities
or
oneanother
until
they
believe
what
they are
saying.
Having no
real
logic
on
their
side,
they
resort
to
innuendo as
a
weapon and
try
to
discredit
those
who
fail
to
support
their
view.
The
UFO
magazines
refer
to
me
as
the arch
-demon
of
gaucerdom!
I
concede that the concept of
manned
spaceships
is
not
an
absolute impossi-
bility.
Neither are the concepts
of
ghosts,
spirits,
witches,
fairies, elves,
hob-
goblins,
or the
devil.
The
only
trouble
with
this last
list
is
the fact they are
out of
date.
We
live
in the
age
of
space.
Is
it
not
natural
that
beings
from
outer space should
exhibit
an
interest in
us? But,
when
we
consider that these
beings—if indeed they are
beings—have
been bugging us
for
centuries,
why
should
one not have landed
and shown
himself
to
the President of the United
States, to
a
member of the National
Academy
of
Sciences,
or at
least to
some
member
of Congress?
Please
don't
misunderstand
me. I
think
it
is
very
possible
that
intelligent
life—perhaps
more
intelligent
than
we—may
exist
somewhere
in the vast reaches
of outer space.
But
it is
the very vastness of
this
space that complicates the
problem.
The
distances
are
almo4
inconceivable.
The
time required to reach
the earth—even at speeds comparable with that of light—range
in
hundreds
if
not thousands of years for our near neighbors.
And
it
takes
light
some
billions
of years to reach us from
the most
distant galaxies, times comparable with that

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