Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

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as far
as
UFO's
are concerned.
They
have
included
Air
Force
generals
and
Army
generals,
and
usually
they
display
a
great
interest.
Some-
times
they
will
say,
I
don't
believe,
but
my
wife does;
some
will
say.
The
other
day
I
was
engaged
in
a
colloquy
over
on
the
floor
of
the
House,
not
a
part
of
the
record,
but
just
as
a
side
conversation,
with
two
of
my
colleagues
who
sit
on
this
committee.
(At
this
point,
discussion
was
off
the
record.)
Mr.
RousH. Back
on
the
record.
As
a
result
of
my
experience
on
this
committee
I
have
been
privi-
leged
to
visit
the
tracking
stations
which
NASA
has
throughout
the
world.
Each
place
I
have
visited
I
have
asked the
question,
"Have
you
tracked
any
unidentified
flying
object?"
Well,
it
is
obvious
they
apparently
don't
have
the
ability
to
track,
but
the
response
was "No,"
everywhere
except
in
South
Africa.
Then
they
said,
'Anything
we
track,
which
we
do
not
understand,
we
turn
over
to the
Department
of
Defense,"
inferring there
were
some
things
they did
not
understand.
The
same
is
true
with
those
places
in the
world
where
there
is
aBaker
-Nunn
camera.
I
asked the
same
question
of
them.
For
the
most
part
there
was a
boundless
curiosity,
but
a
negative
response.
Dr.
HYNEK.
I
might
respond
to that,
of
course,
in talking
to
them,
you
have
represented
officialdom,
and
they
may
themselves
be
a
little
afraid to
say anything
to
a Congressman
that
might
get
them
intotrouble.
But
I
get
reports
subrosa that are to
the
effect
that people
;
trackers,
and
so
forth,
have
seen things,
but they
would
not dare
think
of
re-
porting
it.
Now,
that
is
hearsay.
I am
sorry
it
is
not hearsay;
it
has happened
to
me.
But
it
is
not
what
I
would
call
"solid
evidence."
Mr.
Rousx.
Just
one
other
comment.
I
serve
on
the
board of
trustees
of
a
college
back
in
Indiana.
In
the course
of
a
year they
had numerous
lectures
by
outstandin* people in
their lecture
series,
quite
outstandingpeople
on
various
subjects,
but they
scheduled
one
lecture
given
by
a
student
at
the
college
on
unidentified flying
objects.
Needless to say,
he
had
the
best
attendance
of
the
entire
series.
Dr.
Harder.
Dr.
HARDER.
Following
on
something
that
Dr.
Hynek
said
about
the small percentage
of
actual sightings
that are reported,
this
would
suggest that the
two
instances
that
I
brought
out,
which
to
my
knowl-
e
are the only extant
pieces
of
what you might
call
scientific
information—information
containing information
of
a
scientific
nature,
might
well
be
multiplied
by a
factor
of
10,
if
it
were not
forthis ridicule
bit,
and
furthermore,
if
it
were not the
subject
of
ridicule,
many
_people
would perhaps take greater care in the observations that
they
do make, and
perhaps
come up
with
similar
kinds of
anecdotal
nature of
somewhat more
importance than
just flashing
lights.
For
instance, the plane of
polarization
or—well,
many
kinds ofobservations
came
to us.
We
would have even at
this
point far
moreanecdotal information of a
scientific
nature
and of
scientific
impor-
tance than
we now
have.
Mr. RousH.
I
think those of you who
have
sat
on
this
panel today
have made perhaps a
greater contribution than you
realize in adding