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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
140
One
figure
shows
the
appearance
of
one and
two
foot
birds*
as
they
might
appear
on
a
16mm
frame
taken
with
a
3"
telephoto
lens
-
f/16
at
a
distance
of
1,200',
at
3,000'
and
at'3,300'.
Many
of the
images on
the
"Utah"
film
have
an
angulardiameter of
0.001,
2
radians
(some
as
large
as
0.001,16
radians),
thus
they
mightbe
interpreted
as
one
foot
(wing
span)
birds
at
600'
to
800',
two
foot
(wing
span)
birds
at
1,200'
to
1,600'
or
three foot
(wing
span)
birds
at
2,400'
to
3,200'.
At
these
distances,
it
is
doubted
if
birds
would
give
the
appearance
of
round
dots;
also
they
would have
been
identifiable
by
the
camera
if
not
visually.
However,
actual
movies
of
birds
in
flight
would
have
to
be
taken
to
completely confirm
this
con-
clusion.
The
following
type
of
gulls
have
been
know
to
fly
at
times
over
this
locality:
California
Herring
Gull
(a
common summer
resident),
Ring
-Billed
Gull
and
the
Fork
-Tailed
Gull,
see
Reference (4).
The
images are
probably
not
those
of
balloons
as
their
number
is
too
great
and
the
phenomenon
of
flaring
up
to
a
constant
brightness
for
several
seconds,
and
then dying
out
again cannot
well
be
associated
with
any
known
ballon
observations.
Certain soaring insects—notably
"ballooning spiders"
(References
(5)
and
(6)
)
produce
bright
-moving
points
of
light.
The
author
has
witnessed
such
a
phenomenon.
It
is
produced
by
Sun
reflections
off
the streamers
of
silken
threads
spun by
many
types of
spiders.
Caught
by
the
wind,
these
streamers
serve
as
a
means
of
locom6tion
floating
the
spider
high
into
the
air.
They
occasionally
have
the
appearance
'of
vast
numbers
of
silken
flakes
which
fill
the
air
and
in
some
recorded
instances
extend over
many
square
miles
and
to
a
height
of
several
hundred
feet.
The
reflection,
being
off
silk
threads,
is
not
as
bright
as
diffuse
reflection
from
a
flat
white
board.
Thus no
flaring
of the
images
could
be
expected.
The
author
noted that the
sections
of
the
"web"
that
reflected
measured
from
1
/
4
"
to
1
/
2
"
for
,the
largest
specimens.
Thus
the
images might
be
attributed
to
ballooning spiders
at
distances
of
50
to
100
feet.
However,
these
web
reflections
ordinarily
show
upon
only
against
a
rather
dark background
and
it
is
doubted
if
their intensity
would
be
great
enough
to
produce the
in,tense
UFO
images
against
a
bright
sky.
Besides the
above remarks,
pertinent to
the
actual
images,
several facts
can
be
gleaned
from
the motion
of
objects.
The
observations
are not
apt
to
support
the
supposition
that
the
objects
were
conventional
'aircraft
as
the
maneuvers
are
too
erratic,
the
relative
acceleration's
probably
ruling
out
aircratf
at
distances
of
over
five
miles.
Several observers familiar
with the
appearance
of
chaff
have
seen
the
film
and
concluded that
the
persistence
of
the nontwinkling
constellations,
their
small
quantity,
and
the
reported
absence
of
aircraft
oberhead
makes
chaff
unlikely.
Furthermore, the
single
object
passing across
the
field
of view
would
be
most
difficult
pe
explain
on
the
basis
of
chaff.
These
same
remarks would
apply
also
to
bits
of
paper
swept
up
in
thermal
updrafts.
The
relative
ahgular
velocity
might
be compatible
with
soaring
bird
speeds at
distances
of
lesSkthan
one
mile,
the angular
velocity
of the
single
object
could
be
attributed
to
a
bird
within
about one thousand
feet.
There
is
a
tendency
to
pan
with
a
moving
object—not
against
it—
so the
velocities
in
the
table
probablyrepresent
a
lowet bound.
The
motion of
the
nbjects
is not
exactly
what
one would
expect
from
a
flock
of soaring
birds
(not
the
slightest
indication
of
a
decrease
in
brightness
due
to periodic
turning
with
the
wind
or
flapping)
and no cumulus
clouds
are
present
which might
betray the presence
of
a
strong
thermal
updraft.
On
the other
hand
the
single
object
might
represent
a
single
soaring
bird
whichbroke
away
in
search of
a
new
thermal—quite
a common
occurrence
among
gulls—see Reference (7).
That
the
air
turbulence necessary to
account for
their
movement
if
they
werenearby
insects
(even
the
single object's
motion!)
is possible,
can
be concluded
from
examination of Reference (8).
However,
if
the
objects
were nearby
spider
webs
the lack of observed or photographed streamers
is
unusual.
Furthermore,the fact that
they were
visible
from a
moving
car for several
minutes
is
hard
toreconcile
with
localized insect
activity.
The
phenomenon
of atmospheric mirages, Reference (9), might
conceivably
account for the images.
Such a
hypothesis
is
hampered by the
clear
weather
con-ditions
and
the
persistence
and
clarity
of the images. Also
no "shimmering" canbe
detected
and
the motion
is
steady.
Again the object
which breaks
away
wouldbe
difficult
to explain.
*The
dimensions
refer to
wing
spread.
The
actual exposed white area of
a
bird is
usuallyless
and depends upon the perspective
of the observer.
This
difference
has been roughly
accounted for in the data given, however,
if
the body were the principal reflector
the
,
distance given should be reduced by a
factor of
2
or 3.

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