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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

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This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
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Several
appendixes
accompany
this
report.
The
first
two
are in
response to
Congressman
Roush's
invitational
letter
of July
10,
1968,
and
consist
of
my
biographical sketch
and a
listing
of
my
bibliography,
respectively.
The
third
appendix
relates
directly
to
my
specific
recommendations,
and
was
included
with
the
kind
permission
of
Dr.Sydney Walker
III.
The
fourth
appendix
presents three
reprints
of
articles
(Baker
(1968a)
and
(1968b)
and Walker
(1968)
)
that
are
pertinent
to
the
subject
matter
of
this report.
PART
I.
ANALYSES
OF ANOMALISTIC
OBSERVATIONAL
PHENOMENAUTAH
AND
MONTANA
FILMS
My
initial
contact
with
anomalistic observational
phenomena—
AOP—came
in
1954
when
I
was a
consultant to
Douglas
Aircraft
Co.
in
Santa Monica,
Calif.,
serving
as
special
assistant
to
Dr.
W.
B.
Klemperer,
director
of Douglas'
research
staff.
The
data
consisted
of
two
short
film
clips:
one
taken
in
Montana—termed by
us
as
the
Mon-
tana
film—and
one
taken in
Utah—called
by
us
the
Utah
film.
These
films
were
provided
to
us
by
the
Air
Technical
Intelligence
Center—
ATIC,
now
the
Foreign Technology
Division—FDT—at
Wright
-
Patterson
Air
Force Base; 35
-millimeter prints
were
furnished
by
Green
-Rouse
Productions
of
Samuel Goldwyn
Studios.
Both
films
had
been taken
by
apparently
reliable
and
unbiased
men
using
amateur movie cameras and,
in
each
case,
there
was
a
credible,
substantiating
witness
present.
The
films exhibited
the
motion of
rather
fuzzy white
dots,
but
the
Montana
film
was
remarkable
in that
foreground
was
visible
on
most
of
the frames.
Preliminary
analysis
excluded
most
natural
phenomena.
More
de-
tailed
study
indicated
that the only
remaining
natural
phenomenon
candidate for the
Utah
film
was
birds
in
flight,
and
for the
Montana
film
it
was
airplane fuselage
reflections
of
the sun.
After about
18
months
of
rather
detailed,
albeit
not
continuous,
study using
variousfilm
-measuring equipments
at
Douglas
and
at
UCLA,
as
well
as
anal-ysis
of
a
photogrammetric
experiment,
it
appeared that
neither
of
these
hypothesized natural
phenomena
explanations
had
merit,
and
a
report
was
published
by
me
(Baker
(1956)
)
and
forwarded
to
Brig.
Gen. Harold
E.
Watson, commander,
ATIC.
Since the
description
ofthe circumstances
of the
filmings
and
the analyses
of
the data pro-
vided
on
the
films
is
rather lengthy,
and have
since
been published
in the
open
literature,
1
it
does not seem
unreasonable to repeat the
analyses here.
FLORIDA
FILM
During
the course
of
this
study
we
also
had
the opportunity to
view
some gun
-camera photographs taken over Florida. Unfortunately,
we
could not
retain this film,
and
did not have time
available to
accom-
plish
a
comprehensive
analysis.
Like
the
Montana and Utah
films, this
film also exhibited
only white-dot
images; however,
since
a foreground
was
present,
a competent study could have been
carried out.
Dr.Klemperer and
I
agreed
on
the preliminary conclusion—not supported
by
detailed
analyses—that, again,
no
natural
phenomenon was a
likely
source for the images.
1
For
the
Utah
film, see
Baker and Makemson (1967): for the Montana
film, see
Baker
(1968a). This
latter reference
is
included in app.
4
to this paper.

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