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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
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Dr.
Baker
represented
the
United
States
Air
Force
at
the
International Astro-
nautical
Federation
meeting
in
Stockholm,
Sweden
in 1961, represented
the
United
States
at
the
International
Union
of
Theoretical
and
Applied
Mechanics
European
Conferences
in
1962
and
in
1965
and
was
an
invitee to
the
Astronomi-
cal
Councile of the
Academy
of
Sciences
of
USSR
in
Moscow
in
1967.
He
was
voted
an
Outstanding
Young
Man
of the
Year by
the Junior
Chamber
of
Com-
merce
in
1965.
From
1963
to
1964
he
was
the National
Chairman
of the
..listro-
dynamics
Technical
Committee
of
the
American
Institute
of
Aeronautics
and
Astronautics
and
is
currently
a
member
of
Computer
Sciences
Technical
Com-
mittee.
Dr. Baker
has
been
the Editor
of the
Journal
of the
Astronautical Sciences
since
1963.
He
was
the
joint
editor
of the Proceedings
of the
1961
International
Astronautical
Federation
Congress
and
the
senior
author
of
the
first
textbook
on
astrodynamics
:
An
Introduction
to
Astrodynamics
published in 1960.
Dr.
Baker
is
the
author of four
books
and
over
70
technical
papers
(
see
Appen-
dix 2).
Dr.
Baker's
professional
society
memberships
include
the
American
Associa-
tion
for
the
Advancement
of
Science,
Phi
Beta
Kappa, Sigma
Xi,
Sigma
Pi
Sigma, American
Astronautical
Society
(Fellow),
British
Interplanetary
So-
ciety
(Fellow),
American
Institute
of Aeronautics
and
Astronautics (Associate
Fellow
and
member
of the
Computer
Sciences
Technical
Committee),
British
Astronomical
Society
(Fellow),
American
Astronomical
Society,
American
Physi-
cal
Society,
and
Meteoritical Society.
His
active security
clearance
is
top
secret.
STATEMENT OF
DR.
ROBERT
M.
L.
BAKER.,
IR.,
SENIOR
SCIENTIST,
COMPUTER
SCIENCES
CORP.,
EL
SEGUNDO,
CALIF.,
AND
FACULTY,
DEPARTMENT
OF
ENGINEERING,
UCLA
Dr. BAKER.
Fine,
thank
you,
Mr.
Roush.
I
should
like
to preface
my
remarks
by
stating
my
preference
for the
term
"anomalistic
observational
phenomena,"
as
opposed
to
the
term
"unidentified flying
objects."
Mr.
RousH.
I
observed
you
were going
to
say
that
and
I
wonder
about
some
of
my
Hoosiers
back
home
using those terms.
Dr. BAKER.
It
comes
trippingly
off
the tongue.
Mr.
RousH.
It
might
not
only cause
some
Hoosiers but
some
laymen
some
problems. It
might
be
easier
to say
UFO's.
You may
go
-ahead.
Dr. BAKER.
I
call
it
AOP.
From
the data that
I
have
reviewed
and
analyzed
since
1954,
it
is
my
belief
that there
does
exist
substantial
evidence to
support
the
claim that
an
unexplained
phenomenon—or phenomena—is
present in
the environs
of the
earth,
but that
it
may
not be
"flying,"
may
not
always be
"unidentified,"
and,
perhaps,
may
not even be
substantive"objects."
In
the following statement
I
will—
(1)
Present
a
summary
of the
analyses
that
I
have accom-
plished to
date—those
that
have
led
me
to
believe
that anomalistic
phenomena
exist;
(2)
Explain
the probable inadequacy of our
current
terrestrial
sensors in observing
and/or
defining the
characteristics
of theanomalistic
phenomena;
(3)
Suggest a number
of
tentative hypothetical sources for the
phenomena, and
the
justification
for
their
scientific
study;
(4) And,
finally,
I
will
make
specific
recommendations con-
cerning the
necessity
for
new
types of
closely related observational
and study programs which might be implemented
in
a fashion
that would permit the
detection
and
quantitative analysis
of the
anomalistic
phenomena.

Cases discussed

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