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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
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superstrength in materials that are larger than the tiny fibers we have
produced so far.
Needless to say, if we persist in denying the reality of UFO's we
will not be looking for such samples, and may indeed reject them as
having no importance when they are brought to our attention.
That is the conclusion of my prepared statement. I would like to
comment on some of the suggestions as asked by Congressman Rums-
feld earlier.
I conclude in some of my colleagues' recommendations that a mul-
tiple-faceted exploration be made of this subject, preferably at sev-
eral institutions simultaneously.
I have some suggestions as to how we could acquire additional
scientific data even at the present time.
This is a three-point program which involves first the establish-
ment of an early warning network, which the Colorado project be-
gan last February. Then to take advantage of one of the character-
istics of UFO sightings: that they, in many instances, are seen on one
or two successive nights.
We could have prearranged instrument packages which are ar-
ranged for instant transportation to locations where UFO's have
been sighted. If the budget for such a program were low, you might
be able to borrow such things and have them ready at various uni-
versities where the instruments were otherwise occupied for research.
That would be the second point of this investigation.
The third point would be the cooperation of the Air Force for
logistics and high-speed transport to crucial areas on a 24-hour basis.
Now, that three-point program may well bring to us physical data
that so far has appeared only in anecdotal, still from essential ama-
teurs who happened just accidentally to be at the right place. It was
truly a fortunate accident when Mr. Webb was there to make the
observation I described earlier.
Mr. Rousx. Does that conclude your statement?
Dr. HARDER. That concludes my statement.
PREPARED STATEMENT OF DR. JAMES A. HARDER
I am very glad for this opportunity to present to your Committee some of my
views on the problem of Unidentified Flying Objects and to indicate some of the
areas in which I think a closer investigation of this problem might provide us
with scientific clues that would give an important impetus to basic and applied
research in the United States.
There have been strong feelings aroused about UFO's, particularly about the
extra-terrestrial hypothesis for their origin. This is entirely understandable, in
view of man's historic record of considering himself the central figure in the
natural scene; the extra-terrestrial hypothesis tends inevitably to undermine
the collective ego of the human race. These feelings have no place in the scientific
assessment of facts, but I confess that they have at times affected me.
Over the past twenty years a vast amount of evidence has been accumulating
that bears on the existence of UFO's. Most of this is little known to the general
public or to most scientists. But on the basis of the data and ordinary rules of
evidence, as would be applied in civil or criminal courts, the physical reality
of UFO's has been proved beyond a reasonable doubt. With some effort, we
can accept this on an intellectual level but find a difficulty in accepting it on
an emotional level, in such a way that the facts give a feeling of reality. In
this respect, we might recall the attitude many of us have towards our own
deaths: We accept the facts intellectually, but find it difficult to accept them
emotionally.
Indeed, there are flying saucer cultists who are as enthusiastic as they are
naive about UFO's—who see in them some Messianic symbols—they have a

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