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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
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patrolmen. During that night, and several succeeding nights, there
were many reports of UFO's over northern California, but this par-
ticular event is important not only because of the fact that it has been
well authenticated but because of the relatively long time and close
nature of the observations. My condensed description that follows is
from the official report filed the next day by the two officers (see ap-
pendix I and II) from a half-hour taped interview conducted 3 days
later by myself and Dr. Carl Johannessen, of the University of
Oregon; from a letter written by Officer Charles A. Carson to Walter
N. Webb, Charles Hayden Planetarium, Boston, Mass., dated Novem-
ber 14, 1960; and from a telephoned interview conducted by Dr. James
McDonald with Mr. Carson on October 27,1966.
APPENDIX I
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES TO THE EVENTS OF AUGUST 13, 1960
When Officer Scott radioed the Tehama County Sheriff's Office, two deputies,
Fry and Montgomery, traveled to Los Molinos, somewhat northeast of the first
sighting, from which point they observed the UFO simultaneously, though at a
greater distance, with Scott and Carson. The night jailer, from a point further
north, saw it, and marched his several prisoners out onto the roof of the jail,
each of whom saw it. Subsequently, due to newspaper publicity, Carson received
a number of letters from motorists who had seen the object while traveling along
Highway 99E. After Scott and Carson returned to the Sheriff's Office, they called
the radar base again, and talked with the operator while all of them listened
in on various extensions. He described to them some of the movements of the
object as he had observed it on the radar screen; these corresponded to the move-
ments they had observed.
Several months later, in a personal interview conducted on January 3, 1961,
Captain Blohl, Area Commander at Red Bluff, stated that both Scott and Carson
had worked for him for three or four years, and that he had the highest regard
for their honesty and devotion to duty. They were not publicity minded, he said.
Of Scott, he remarked, "Scotty would rather take a knife or a gun away from
a man than make a speech." In the unwanted publicity that was forced upon
them, Blohl stated that their story stood up unaltered—that there were no
baubles during question periods.
APPENDIX II
REPORT OF OFFICERS CARSON AND SCOTT TO STATE HIGHWAY PATROL AREA
COMMANDER
To: Area Commander, Red Bluff.
Prom: 0. A. Carson, No. 2358, S. E. Scott, No. 1851.
Subject: Unidentified Flying Object.
SIR: Officer Scott and I were eastbound on bag Road, east of Corning look-
ing for a speeding motorcycle when we saw what at first appeared to be a huge
airliner dropping from the sky. The object was very low and directly in front
of us. We stopped and leaped from the patrol vehicle in order to get a position
on what we were sure was going to be an airplane crash. From our position
outside the car the first thing we noticed was an absolute silence. Still assuming
it to be an aircraft with power off we continued to watch until the object was
probably within 100' to 200' of the ground when it suddenly reversed completely,
at high speed and gained approx. 500' altitude. There the object stopped. At this
time it was clearly visible to both of us, and obviously not an aircraft of any
design familiar to us. It was surrounded by a glow making the round or oblong
object visible. At each end, or each side of the object, there were definite red
lights. At times about 5 white lights were visible between the red lights. As we
watched, the object moved again and performed aerial feats that were actually
unbelievable. At this time we radioed Teharaa County Sheriff's Office requesting
they contact the local radar base. The radar base confirmed the U.F.0.—com-
pletely unidentified.
AUGUST 13, 1960.

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