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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
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backs, of which the sole purpose of many seems to be, apart from
making a fast buck for the authors, to titillate the fancy of the
credulous.
Indeed, in such newsstand publications three or four UFO reports
are frequently sensationalized on one page with gross disregard for
accuracy and documentation; the result is that a scientist—if he reads
them at all—is very likely to suffer mental nausea and to relegate the
whole subject to the trash heap.
This is the first problem a scientist encounters when he takes a look
at the UFO phenomenon. His publicly available source material is
almost certain to consist of sensational, undocumented accounts of
what may have been an actual event. Such accounts are much akin, per-
haps, to the account we might expect from an aborigine encountering
a helicopter for the first time, or seeing a total eclipse of the sun. There
is nowhere a serious scientist can turn for what he would consider
meaningful, hard-core data—as hard core and quantitative as the phe-
nomenon itself permits at present.
Here we come to the crux of the problem of the scientist and the
UFO.The ultimate problem is, of course, what are UFO's; but the im-
mediate and crucial problem is, How do we get data for proper sci-
entific study? The problem has been made immensely more difficult
by the supposition held by most scientists, on the basis of the poor
data available to them, that there couldn't possibly be anything sub-
stantial to UFO reports in the first place, and hence that there is no
point to wasting time or money investigating.
This strange, but under the circumstances understandable attitude,
would be akin to saying,for instance,let us not build observatories and
telescopes for the study of the stars because it is obvious that those
twinkling points of light up there are just illusions in the upper
atmosphere and do not represent physical things.
Fortunately, centuries ago there were a few curious men who did
not easily accept the notion that stars were illusory lights on a crystal-
line celestial sphere and judged that the study of the stars might be
worthwhile though, to many, a seemingly impractical and nonsensi-
cal venture. The pursuit of that seemingly impractical and possibly
unrewarding study of astronomy and related sciences, however, has
given us the highly technological world we live in and the high stand-
ard of living we enjoy—a standard which would have been totally im-
possible in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the
skies.
Can we afford not to look toward the UFO skies; can we afford to
overlook a potential breakthrough of great significance? And even
apart from that, the public is growing impatient. The public does not
want another 20 years of UFO confusion. They want to know whether
there really is something to this whole UFO business—and I can tell
you definitely that they are not satisfied with the answers they have
been getting. The public in general may be unsophisticated in scientific
matters, but they have an uncanny way of distinguishing between an
honest scientific approach and the method of ridicule and persiflage.
As scientists, we may honestly wish to see whether there is any
scientific paydirt in this international UFO phenomenon. But to dis-
cover this paydirt we must devote serious study to UFO's. To make

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