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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
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to me would be to take the 100 or 200 cases per year that seem to be
reliably reported and reasonably well documented, and to study them
carefully for recurring patterns, with emphasis on the way they react
to their environment,the way they react to light sources,the way they
react to presence of humans and so on.
The second form of research would be, I think to study explicitly
those portions of the problem that do result from mass hysteria, ap-
parently. These need to be studied intensively, quite apart from the
question of the physical phenomena,to improve our understanding of
mass hysteria and panic, and its possibly dangerous consequences.
In doing this I think it is terribly important that particular observa-
tions be studied by the scientists of a variety of disciplines, that the
study of the hysteria hypothesis not be separated from the others. If
it is, there is a tendency to make this hypothesis the garbage can for
otherwise unexplained sightings.
The third type of study that seems to me terribly important, but my
colleagues at the table can speak with more authority than I,is the sys-
tematic gathering of new cases with good scientific instrumentation,
the kind of work in quantitative evidence that would give us much
more to go on.
The third recommendation I had to suggest was that possibly in
addition to a careful scientific investigation and study of this phenom-
enon, it might be fruitful to set up formally an adversary proceeding
modeled after our system of jurisprudence. There is a tendency for us
academics to sit on fences as long as we possibly can, and I think that
if there were several teams of investigators who were assigned the
responsibility much the way a prosecuting attorney or defense attorney
is, assigned the responsibility to make the strongest possible case for
one of the systems of explanation,that this would challenge the others,
and force them to find more solid evidence.
It would try to benefit from some of the valuable features we have
in our system of jurisprudence.
That concludes my presentation, except to comment briefly on how
this relates to the suggestion of my colleagues. I would certainly en-
thusiastically agree with Dr.Hynek's suggestion of a board of inquiry,
or some competent group to study the phenomenon.
I would certainly agree with Dr. McDonald's view that a variety of
approaches would be fruitful, that a single study has many disadvan-
tages. I have taken an interest for a number of years in the problems
of the support of academic institutions by Government, and I think
that we are most likely to proceed to some good knowledge rapidly if
we don't put all our eggs in one basket.
I certainly agree with Dr. Sagan's view that there are these very
intense predisposing emotional factors for each of these beliefs. Some-
how we need to weaken those.
Finally, on the idea of UN cooperation, this had not occurred to me,
but I think it is an excellent idea. If it is possible to establish some
detached international agency that can bring about free, open flow of
information, and some cooperation internationally in investigating
this, it would be helpful.
Thank you,Mr.Roush.
Mr.Rousn.Thank you,Dr.Hall.
Are there questions?

Cases discussed

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