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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
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I think we have precisely the same risk of misinterpretation as hos-
tile aircraft, with again the same resulting recommendation.
I think we have again the same possible great value from under-
standing the phenomenon in order to advance our knowledge.
The third major hypothesis, explanation, which I cited above, is
that even the most solid and plausible cases reported are results of
mass hysteria and hysterical contagion.I simply note that if this is the
case,I regard it as prima facie evidence that we badly need to improve
our understanding of mass hysteria,of the process of belief formation,
of the means by which we might control the kinds of anxiety that
produce this problem.
In this situation there is still the dangerous risk of panic, even if
there is no physical phenomenon underlying these reports. There is
still the risk of misinterpretation of hos6le aircraft, and I would sub-
mit that there is still the great potential benefit from studying it
thoroughly and scientifically,in this case the gain being a gain in socio-
logical and psychological knowledge, which would be of obvious im-
portance if all of this is caused simply by mass hysteria.
I have a few conclusions and recommendations which I have written
out. I will try to tie these to what others have said as I go along.
My first conclusion would be that no matter what explanation you
accept, we have here a rare opportunity for gaining some useful knowl-
edge by a thorough detached study of UFO reports, and a systematic
gathering of new information, hopefully with good instrumentation,
and good, well-trained interviewing teams.
My second conclusion would be that hysteria and contagion of be-
lief can account for some of the reports, but there is strong evidence
that there is some physical phenomena underlying a portion of the
reports.
Third,I would conclude that because of the lack of trustworthy in-
formation the systems of conflicting beliefs has been built up to ac-
count for a very ambiguous set of circumstances. Each of these posi-
tions is sometimes defended beyond the point of rationality.
Fourth, I would repeat my earlier statement as a conclusion, that
whether or not there is a physical phenomenon underlying a portion
of the reports, we clearly have a social psychological problem of sub-
duing these irrational systems of belief, defense of beliefs of lowering
the anxiety about these reports, and of reducing the ambiguity about
their nature.
The recommendations that I had written out were two—excuse me,
were three, and overlap considerably with the comments of my col-
leagues. I would say that the most important matter is to promote the
fullest possible free circulation of all the available information about
this phenomena. This should help reduce risks of panic and other
dangerous irrational actions. It should help to weaken these systems of
belief, the irrational elements in them. Here I would say indifference,
or disinterest on the part of national leaders can retard our learning
about this phenomenon,and open interest and encouragement can help.
I believe you are performing a fine service in having this kind of
open inquiry. This whole matter badly needs to be treated as something
deserving serious study.
The second recommendation I have to make concerns some general
lines of research that would seem to me called for. One of these seems

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