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Symposium on unidentified flying objects: hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress, second session, July 29, 1968.

U.S. House of Representatives · 1968-07-29 · 256 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed record of a July 29, 1968 symposium on unidentified flying objects held by the Committee on Science and Astronautics of the U.S. House of Representatives, chaired by Rep. J. Edward Roush. The committee heard statements from six scientists: J. Allen Hynek, James E. McDonald, Carl Sagan, Robert L. Hall, James A. Harder and Robert M. L. Baker. It also printed papers from Donald Menzel, Stanton Friedman, Frank Salisbury and others. Hynek argued that puzzling UFO reports from competent witnesses deserve serious scientific study.

  • p. 12 …in a peasant society whose eyes were never turned toward the skies. Can we afford not…
  • p. 13 …for a proper and definitive study will never develop. I recall an encounter I had sometime…
  • p. 16 …A very character- istic statement by those making the reports is: "I have never seen anything…
  • p. 18 …They also usually request anonymity which is always granted. (4) UFO's are never seen at…
  • p. 19 …Other misconceptions are that UFO's are never reported by scien- tifically trained people, are never…
  • p. 20 …it has never been considered worthwhile to improve the data -gathering process because the whole subject…
  • p. 27 …he is looking at something he has never seen before. I like Dr. Hynek's phrase…
  • p. 37 …at the Ontario Hydro Commission plant has never been identified, but initially thetentative suspicion was centered…
  • p. 39 …cover- ing innumerable intriguing cases I had never before heard of, and (above all) after the…
  • p. 43 …diminish in sig- nificance, though they can never be overlooked. A frequent objection to serious consideration…
  • p. 45 …out- of-the-way rural areas but never over large cities? Why don't large groups…
  • p. 48 …Smith emphasized that they were never certain of sizes and distances, but that they had the…
  • p. 53 …is deceased), I believe that there has never been any dispute as to the observed facts…
  • p. 59 …Many other sources could be cited to show that the intimation that UFOs are never seen…
  • p. 65 …After the 'official "explanation" was publicized, he decided he'd never report another one. I predict…
  • p. 68 …In the ensuing two decades, he has never again seen anything like it. Clearly, the probability…
  • p. 69 …Moore never got a sufficiently clear view to identify any finer details if any were present…
  • p. 75 …the past twenty years, cases that ought never have been so labelled, had the evaluators kept…
  • p. 76 …Ground radar stations never detected the unknown that was seen visually and contacted by airborne radar…
  • p. 77 …strong, bright pips, said that "anomalous propagation never entered our heads as an explanation." Howard S…
  • p. 78 …7) but could never close with the unknown as its continued on its north- bound course…
  • p. 80 …All three said they had never before seen anything like it. Munger decided to phone his…
  • p. 81 …The photos were shortly taken by Base military authorities and were never seen again by the…
  • p. 87 …referred to repeatedly in Menzel's writings, never with any quantitative discussion of precisely what he…
  • p. 100 …visual observations of classical UFO's have never been made by profes- sional astronomers. For example…
  • p. 101 …how the promised political or social intervention never materializes. Psychological Factors. The psychologist Carl Jung pointed…
  • p. 125 …Oh, heavens, I never suggested that, I hope. Mr. BOONE. Well, let me say, science fiction…
  • p. 159 …He has not ever been exposed to any toxic substances, has never had to take any…
  • p. 168 …He said he had never had the experience of deja-vu episodes or of performing acts…
  • p. 171 …It never occurred to him to call anyone else's attention to the light (probably because…
  • p. 172 …He had never seen anything like it before and in fact had never previously had the…
  • p. 173 …He has taken only two sick days in the entire five years and is never late…
  • p. 174 …He never has fantasied actively taking his own life, however, and feels it would be very…
  • p. 175 …He never was one to participate in extracurricular activities, but always maintained a part-time job…
  • p. 176 …Prior to seeing that light, he apparently never experienced a deja vu, or any illusory or…
  • p. 194 …If the observer being studied is truly sociopathic and has never de- veloped a super -ego…
  • p. 203 197 This data, which most people have never seen or even heard of, is published in…
  • p. 206 …They never have had enough sCientists in the project. They have failed to follow up certain…
  • p. 221 …Isn't it true that UFOs have never been sighted on radar? No, it is not…
  • p. 243 …make such an all- inclusive negative statement. Never- theless, many of the arguments are highly compelling…
  • p. 244 …A balloon reported as a UFO was never out of sight of its launchers. A perplexing…
  • p. 247 …al- though he apologizes because he has never had the time to make a thorough search…
  • p. 249 …two leads appeared, but other witnesses could never be located), but his ap- parent sincerity was…
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of the almost total lack of quantitative data—of all those things which
are part and parcel of the working environment of the scientist.
I was aware that in order to interest scientists, hard-core data were
needed, and, while the store of unquestionably puzzling reports from
competent witnesses continued to grow the wherewithal to obtain
such hard-core data which would, once and for all, clinch the matter,
was not forthcoming. Thus my scientific reticence was based on a
carefully weighed decision.
In attempting analysis of the UFO problem today, I pay particu-
lar attention to reports containing large amounts of information
which are made by several witnesses, if possible, who as far as I can
ascertain, have unimpeachable reputations and are competent. For
example, I might cite a detailed report I received from the associate
director of one of the Nation's most important scientific laboratories,
and his family.
Reports such as these are obviously in a different category from re-
ports which, say, identify Venus as a hovering spaceship, and thus
add to the frustrating confusion.
On the other hand, when one or more obviously reliable persons re-
ports—as has happened many times—that a brightly illuminated
object hovered a few hundred feet above their automobile, and that
during the incident their car motor stopped, the headlights dimmed or
.went out, and the radio stopped playing, only to have these functions
return to normal after the disappearance of the UFO, it is clearly
another matter.
By'what right can we summarily ignore their testimony and imply
that they are deluded or just plain liars? Would we so treat these same
people if they were testifying in court, under oath, on more mundane
matters?
Or, if it is reported, as it has been in many instances over the world
by reputable and competent persons, that while they were sitting
quietly at home they heard the barnyard animals behaving in a greatly
disturbed and atypical manner and when, upon investigating, found
not only the animals in a state of panic but reported a noiseless—or
sometimes humming—brightly illuminated object hovering nearby,
beaming a bright red light down onto the surroundings, then clearly
we should pay attention. Something very important may be going on.
Now, when in any recognized field of science an outstanding event
takes Place, or a new phenomenon is discovered, an account of it is
quickly presented at a scientific meeting or is published in a respected
appropriate journal. But this is certainly not the case with unusual
UFO reports made by competent witnesses.
There appears to be a scientific taboo on even the passive tabulation
of UFO reports. Clearly no serious work can be undertaken until such
taboos are removed. There should be a respectable mechanism for the
publication,for instance, of a paper on reported occurrences of electro-
magnetic phenomena in UFO encounters.
It would be foolhardy to attempt to present such a paper on UFO's
to the American Physical Society or to the American Astronomical
Society. The paper would be laughed down, if all that could be pre-
sented as scientific data were the anecdotal, incomplete, and nonquan-
titative reports available. Consequently reports of unexplainable UFO
cases are, likely to be found, if at all, in pulp magazines and paper-

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