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Ryan Graves testimony

House Committee on Oversight and Accountability · 5 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the written testimony that former Navy F/A-18 pilot Ryan Graves gave to the House Oversight Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs at its first public hearing on UAP. Graves says that UAP are routinely seen but underreported, and that stigma and heavy classification hide what the government knows. He describes the encounters his squadron had in Warning Area W-72 off Virginia Beach. He also calls for commercial pilot reporting, empowered investigation and declassification of UAP data.

Aircrews along the East Coast continue to encounter advanced UAP nearly a decade later, and
the identity of these UAP remains unknown.
Americans for Safe Aerospace aircrew and military UAP witness program
Recognizing the need for action and answers, I founded Americans for Safe Aerospace, which
now has nearly 5,000 members. What I did not anticipate was how many UAP military veteran
and commercial aircrew witnesses would reach out to us. The organization has since become a
haven for more than 30 UAP witnesses who were previously unspoken due to the absence of a
safe intake process. Most do not want to speak publicly. They are afraid of professional
consequences. They just want to add their account to the data set.
Commercial pilots
The majority of witnesses are commercial pilots at major airlines. Often they are veterans with
decades of flying experience. Pilots are reporting UAP at altitudes that appear to be above them
at 40,000 feet, potentially in low earth orbit or in the grey zone below the Karman line, making
inexplicable maneuvers, like right hand turns and retrograde orbits, or j-hooks. Sometimes these
reports are recurring, with numerous recent sightings north of Hawaii and the North Atlantic.
What commercial pilots tell us can defy belief, often beginning with an apology like “I apologize,
I realize this will sound crazy.” I have met with highly credible commercial pilots at major airlines
with decades of experience, often veterans, describe UAP operating at altitudes that appear to
be above them at 40,000 feet, potentially in low earth orbit or in the grey zone below the
Karman line, making inexplicable maneuvers, like right hand turns and retrograde orbits, or
j-hooks. Sometimes these reports are recurring, with numerous recent sightings north of Hawaii
and the North Atlantic. They are trained observers, often former military pilots, who say they
understand Starlink flares and are adamant that is not the explanation.
Other domain military witnesses
Other veterans are also coming forward to us regarding UAP encounters in our airspace and
oceans. Veterans from all branches of service, who are authorized to come forward by the
NDAA of 2023 to Congress and the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office, are hesitant to do so
due to stigma and a confusing process within government. Currently, there is no public-facing
way for them to report their accounts. We are filling that gap.
The most compelling involve observations of UAP by multiple witnesses and sensor systems,
with supporting documentation or a roadmap to find it. I believe these accounts are only
scratching the surface and more will share their experiences once it is safe to do so. In multiple
cases, contemporaneous notifications were made up the chain of command, and in several,
sensor data was escalated for analysis and there were profound irregularities in how the data
was handled.

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