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This is the printed transcript of a September 9, 2025 hearing held by the U.S. House Oversight Committee's Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets, chaired by Rep. Anna Paulina Luna. The witnesses were Jeffrey Nuccetelli, Alexandro Wiggins, George Knapp, Dylan Borland and Joe Spielberger. They described UAP incursions at Vandenberg Air Force Base from 2003 to 2005 and a tic-tac-shaped object seen from USS Jackson in 2023. Members criticized AARO and called for whistleblower protections and the UAP Disclosure Act.
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5 We need transparency not just to make better policy, but also to ensure that information flows between all those who need it. There are too many tragic examples in our history where information lapses and a lack of cross-agency coordination led to disaster. Just this year, failure to communicate between FAA and the Depart- ment of Defense led to tragedy over the Potomac. The Biden-Harris Administration sought to eliminate some of these lapses when it established the All-domain Anomaly Resolu- tion Office at the Department of Defense. AARO can convene sources from all branches of military, the FAA, and NASA to com- bine forces to create a comprehensive picture of what is happening in our skies. Some UAP reports have perfectly normal expla- nations—satellites, consumer drones, weather balloons, even pranks—but we need to track down each and every single UAP. The United States has millions of eyes in the sky, both electronic and human, but only the combination of civilian, commercial, and military sources can begin to create a complete picture. So, we need to ensure that people can come forward and report what they have seen to the relevant authorities, and they have to have the right to do so without fear of retaliation. This country has a history of dedicated public servants standing up for what is right, even in the face of potential consequences. From the Pentagon Papers to Watergate to torture programs, whis- tleblowers have not only informed the public but also empowered Congress to fulfill its constitutional duty of oversight. Past Con- gresses have written laws to grant legal protection for whistle- blowers, and it is up to us to work responsibly with all sources to hold the executive branch accountable. We are here today to listen to the stories of those who have wit- nessed events of interest to the American people and to support the policies that cultivate an environment that welcomes and protects whistleblowers. I hope this hearing will be an example of the re- spect and protection whistleblowers deserve and the importance of conducting oversight of the Federal Government. I yield back. Mrs. LUNA. I am pleased to welcome the panel of witnesses for today’s hearing. I would first like to welcome Mr. Jeffrey Nuccetelli. He is a United States Air Force veteran and a career Federal employee with more than 20 years of experience in na- tional security, law enforcement, and public administration. Next, we have Mr. Alexandro Wiggins. Mr. Wiggins is currently serving as a senior chief operations specialist in the United States Navy. Mr. Wiggins is testifying in his personal capacity today and not on behalf of the United States Navy. Next, I would like to recognize a gentlewoman from Nevada, Rep- resentative Titus. Ms. TITUS. Thank you very much, Madam Chairman, Ranking Member, for allowing me to sit with you on this panel today. I am honored to be able to introduce a witness here who is from my district, George Knapp, who has been the definitive expert and reporter on this topic that you are exploring today, UAPs or UFOs. George is a longtime friend, I would say that up front, but a very respected journalist and a recognized expert in this field nationally and internationally.
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