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This is the printed transcript of a September 9, 2025 hearing held by the U.S. House Oversight Committee's Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets, chaired by Rep. Anna Paulina Luna. The witnesses were Jeffrey Nuccetelli, Alexandro Wiggins, George Knapp, Dylan Borland and Joe Spielberger. They described UAP incursions at Vandenberg Air Force Base from 2003 to 2005 and a tic-tac-shaped object seen from USS Jackson in 2023. Members criticized AARO and called for whistleblower protections and the UAP Disclosure Act.
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28 Ms. BOEBERT. Yes. Well, I thank you all for your bravery. We are out of time here. Thank you so much for coming forward, and we will do everything that we can to ensure that you are all protected. Thank you for trying to bring truth and transparency to the Amer- ican people. Madam Chair, I yield. Mrs. LUNA. I now recognize Mr. Burlison for about 5 minutes. Mr. BURLISON. Thank you, everyone. It takes such great courage to come forward, and we acknowledge that, and I hope that you see that we are taking that seriously, and so very thankful for what you are doing today. I am also very thankful for previous witnesses that have come forward. I see Matthew Brown in the audience. He courageously stepped forward as a witness. I encourage everybody to look and seek his testimony. I want to thank the people that came in our first hearing, Ryan Graves, David Grusch, David Fravor, and in our second hearing, Admiral Gallaudet, Lou Elizondo, and Mr. Gold, and the many oth- ers that have come forward. We hear you, and it is time that we— you know, enough is enough. It is time that we take action. Look, I have not jumped to the conclusion that I believe that there are, you know, aliens coming from another planet, but I am open to that. And I think that it is our responsibility, especially when we are seeing that we have a government that is actively blocking information from us. Just last night, I tried to get an amendment onto the National Defense Authorization Act that fit in the germaneness of that bill to have UAP disclosure. And conveniently, it was named non- germane, mostly deemed by staff, not even an elected official. This is the kind of stuff that we repeatedly see. Last year, we were blocked by someone in House administration from being able to receive a full briefing from AARO, so not an elected official, but someone in staff blocked us. And I have had it. Enough is enough. I want to queue up a video that I have been given. And before it starts, I am going to describe, this was taken October 30 of 2024. This video is of an MQ–9 drone tracking an orb, or this object, off the coast of Yemen. You will see that another MQ–9 launched a hellfire missile. You cannot see that drone. And I am not going to explain it to you. You will see exactly what it does. Mr. BURLISON. This is when it zoomed out. So, you can still see it traveling. So, Mr. Knapp, have you heard about, you know, events like this occurring? And what information might you have? Mr. KNAPP. I have heard about events like this. I have heard about this event. Jeremy Corbell and I talked about it in one of our episodes a while back. We did not have the video, though. There are servers where there is a whole bank of these kinds of videos that Congress has not been allowed to see, that the public has not been allowed to see. Occasionally, some of that stuff gets out in the wild, and it comes our way. It should be going to you. You know, the public should be seeing this stuff. And why you are not allowed to, I do not know. But that is a hellfire missile smacking into that UFO and just bounced right off, and it kept going.
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