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Restoring Public Trust Through Uap Transparency and Whistleblower Protection

U.S. House of Representatives · 2025-09-09 · 54 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed transcript of a September 9, 2025 hearing held by the U.S. House Oversight Committee's Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets, chaired by Rep. Anna Paulina Luna. The witnesses were Jeffrey Nuccetelli, Alexandro Wiggins, George Knapp, Dylan Borland and Joe Spielberger. They described UAP incursions at Vandenberg Air Force Base from 2003 to 2005 and a tic-tac-shaped object seen from USS Jackson in 2023. Members criticized AARO and called for whistleblower protections and the UAP Disclosure Act.

  • p. 9 …Wiggins is currently serving as a senior chief operations specialist in the United States Navy. Mr…
  • p. 12 …Without it, witnesses like us are dismissed. Three, protect the witnesses. Many stay silent out of…
  • p. 22 …So, I was treated fair, and I appre- ciate the Navy itself with assisting me with…
  • p. 36 …Chief Wiggins, you are currently in the Navy. Is that correct? Chief WIGGINS. Correct. Mr. CRANE…
  • p. 38 …As an active-duty Navy member, we—our mission is to carry out the ship’s…
  • p. 51 …I mean, I have talked to Navy folks that some of the deep sea areas, they…
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C O N T E N T S
OPENING STATEMENTS
Page
Hon. Anna Paulina Luna, U.S. Representative, Chairwoman ............................. 1
Hon. Jasmine Crockett, U.S. Representative, Ranking Member ......................... 4
WITNESSES
Mr. Jeffrey Nuccetelli, U.S. Air Force Veteran
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 6
Chief Alexandro Wiggins, U.S. Navy
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 8
Mr. George Knapp, UAP Journalist
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 9
Mr. Dylan Borland, UAP Witness, U.S. Air Force Veteran
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 12
Mr. Joe Spielberger (Minority Witness), Senior Policy Counsel, Project on
Government Oversight
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................ 14
Written opening statements and bios are available on the U.S. House of
Representatives Document Repository at: docs.house.gov.
INDEX OF DOCUMENTS
* Letter to SECDEF Regarding Major David Charles Grusch Reprisal;
submitted by Rep. Crane.
* Article, NYT, ‘‘DOGE Put Critical Social Security Data at Risk, Whistle-
Blower Says’’; submitted by Rep. Lee.
The documents listed above are available at: docs.house.gov.

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