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Restoring Public Trust Through Uap Transparency and Whistleblower Protection

U.S. House of Representatives · 2025-09-09 · 54 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is the printed transcript of a September 9, 2025 hearing held by the U.S. House Oversight Committee's Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets, chaired by Rep. Anna Paulina Luna. The witnesses were Jeffrey Nuccetelli, Alexandro Wiggins, George Knapp, Dylan Borland and Joe Spielberger. They described UAP incursions at Vandenberg Air Force Base from 2003 to 2005 and a tic-tac-shaped object seen from USS Jackson in 2023. Members criticized AARO and called for whistleblower protections and the UAP Disclosure Act.

  • p. 1 …PUBLIC TRUST THROUGH UAP TRANSPARENCY AND WHISTLEBLOWER PROTECTION HEARING BEFORE THE TASK FORCE ON THE DECLASSIFICATION…
  • p. 5 …HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND GOVERNMENT REFORM TASK FORCE ON THE DECLASSIFICATION OF FEDERAL…
  • p. 7 …and I hope my colleagues on this Task Force will be able to do the same…
  • p. 8 …former director of the government’s UAP Task Force, the former head of aviation security for…
  • p. 10 …Thank you, Chairwoman Luna, Ranking Member Crockett, and Members of the Task Force, for giving us…
  • p. 12 …Good morning, Chairwoman Luna, Ranking Member Crockett, and Members of the Task Force and the Com…
  • p. 13 …I want to underscore three points for the Task Force and the Committee. Aviation and maritime…
  • p. 15 …Task Force show that the USSR launched what is almost certainly the largest UFO/UAP investigation…
  • p. 16 …UAP WITNESS U.S. AIR FORCE VETERAN Mr. BORLAND. Good morning, Members of the Task Force…
  • p. 18 …Chairwoman Luna, Ranking Member Crockett, and Task Force members, thank you for the opportunity to testify…
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There are three goals: Fund independent research and treat UAP
study with the same seriousness as we would any other scientific
field.
Two, end secrecy and overclassification. Transparency is the
foundation of truth. Without it, witnesses like us are dismissed.
Three, protect the witnesses. Many stay silent out of fear for
their careers, reputations, and the safety of their families. Protect
them, and you will embolden others to join this cause.
These phenomena challenge our deepest assumptions about re-
ality, consciousness, and our place in the universe. Exploring them
can unlock transformative breakthroughs in technology, biology,
and human understanding. Let this be the moment when America
chooses courage over fear, transparency over secrecy, and progress
over stagnation. Let us show the world that our Nation leads not
only through strength, but through fearless pursuit of the truth.
Thank you.
Mrs. LUNA. Thank you, Mr. Nuccetelli.
I now recognize Chief Wiggins for his opening statement. Please
press your button. Thank you.
STATEMENT OF ALEXANDRO WIGGINS, U.S. NAVY
Chief WIGGINS. Good morning, Chairwoman Luna, Ranking
Member Crockett, and Members of the Task Force and the Com-
mittee. Thank you for the opportunity to testify today.
My name is Alexandro Wiggins. I am an active duty U.S. Navy
operations specialist, senior chief petty officer, father of three, and
dedicated American testifying today in my personal capacity. The
views I share are my own, and I do not represent the official posi-
tions of the Department of the Navy or any subordinate organiza-
tion.
On the evening of February 15, 2023, at approximately 19:15
PST, in the Whiskey 291 warning area off the coast of southern
California, I was serving onboard USS Jackson. During that pe-
riod, I moved between the Interior Communications Center, ICC–
1, and the bridge wing, correlating the sensor picture with visual
observations, part of my routine responsibilities for surface and air
picture management. What I observed and what our crew recorded
was not consistent with conventional aircraft or drones as they ap-
peared on our system. A self-luminous tic-tac-shaped object
emerged from the ocean before linking up with three other similar
objects. The four then disappeared simultaneously with a high-syn-
chronized, near-instantaneous acceleration.
I observed no sonic boom and no conventional propulsion signa-
tures, no exhaust plume, no control surface articulation on the
SAFIRE image system. Shortly after the synchronized departure,
radar tracks dropped. These observations were multi-sensor and re-
corded inside of ICC–1 with time location overlay visible in our
source frames that have been made public by journalists.
From my experience operating in this region over many years
and consistent with our public characterized encounters, unidenti-
fied objects reoccur in United States operation areas off southern
California. That fact alone does not tell us what they are, but it
does argue the systematic stigma-free reporting and for the preser-

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