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This is the printed transcript of a September 9, 2025 hearing held by the U.S. House Oversight Committee's Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets, chaired by Rep. Anna Paulina Luna. The witnesses were Jeffrey Nuccetelli, Alexandro Wiggins, George Knapp, Dylan Borland and Joe Spielberger. They described UAP incursions at Vandenberg Air Force Base from 2003 to 2005 and a tic-tac-shaped object seen from USS Jackson in 2023. Members criticized AARO and called for whistleblower protections and the UAP Disclosure Act.
8 There are three goals: Fund independent research and treat UAP study with the same seriousness as we would any other scientific field. Two, end secrecy and overclassification. Transparency is the foundation of truth. Without it, witnesses like us are dismissed. Three, protect the witnesses. Many stay silent out of fear for their careers, reputations, and the safety of their families. Protect them, and you will embolden others to join this cause. These phenomena challenge our deepest assumptions about re- ality, consciousness, and our place in the universe. Exploring them can unlock transformative breakthroughs in technology, biology, and human understanding. Let this be the moment when America chooses courage over fear, transparency over secrecy, and progress over stagnation. Let us show the world that our Nation leads not only through strength, but through fearless pursuit of the truth. Thank you. Mrs. LUNA. Thank you, Mr. Nuccetelli. I now recognize Chief Wiggins for his opening statement. Please press your button. Thank you. STATEMENT OF ALEXANDRO WIGGINS, U.S. NAVY Chief WIGGINS. Good morning, Chairwoman Luna, Ranking Member Crockett, and Members of the Task Force and the Com- mittee. Thank you for the opportunity to testify today. My name is Alexandro Wiggins. I am an active duty U.S. Navy operations specialist, senior chief petty officer, father of three, and dedicated American testifying today in my personal capacity. The views I share are my own, and I do not represent the official posi- tions of the Department of the Navy or any subordinate organiza- tion. On the evening of February 15, 2023, at approximately 19:15 PST, in the Whiskey 291 warning area off the coast of southern California, I was serving onboard USS Jackson. During that pe- riod, I moved between the Interior Communications Center, ICC– 1, and the bridge wing, correlating the sensor picture with visual observations, part of my routine responsibilities for surface and air picture management. What I observed and what our crew recorded was not consistent with conventional aircraft or drones as they ap- peared on our system. A self-luminous tic-tac-shaped object emerged from the ocean before linking up with three other similar objects. The four then disappeared simultaneously with a high-syn- chronized, near-instantaneous acceleration. I observed no sonic boom and no conventional propulsion signa- tures, no exhaust plume, no control surface articulation on the SAFIRE image system. Shortly after the synchronized departure, radar tracks dropped. These observations were multi-sensor and re- corded inside of ICC–1 with time location overlay visible in our source frames that have been made public by journalists. From my experience operating in this region over many years and consistent with our public characterized encounters, unidenti- fied objects reoccur in United States operation areas off southern California. That fact alone does not tell us what they are, but it does argue the systematic stigma-free reporting and for the preser-
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