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65 HS1-834228961 62-HQ-83894 Section 004

Federal Bureau of Investigation · 214 pages · text from the file's own layer

This Federal Bureau of Investigation file section (62-HQ-83894, Section 4) collects 1947 to 1949 correspondence on flying discs. It includes Portland police officers' accounts of a silvery object over the city on September 11, 1947, an Alaska pilot's July 1947 sighting near Bethel, citizen letters answered by J. Edgar Hoover, and a 1948 Air Defense Command directive on disc investigations. The FBI replied that it was conducting no flying disc investigations. Later items concern William Albert Rhodes's disc photographs and a Los Angeles letter judged a probable prank.

From the source:Release of 2026-05-08 Incident: N/A, N/A. The FBI's 62-HQ-83894 case file includes investigative records, eyewitness testimonies, and public reports concerning Unidentified Flying Objects and flying discs documented between June 1947 and July 1968. The records include high-profile incident accounts, photographic evidence from sites like Oak Ridge, TN, and technical proposals regarding potential propulsion systems. Additional topics include convention programs, researcher accounts, and extensive media coverage from the period. This file is partially posted on FBI vault with more redactions and some pages missing. Included here is the complete case file with several newly declassified pages and only minor redactions.

  • p. 106 …CO Kirtland AY.B New Mexico To: Chief of Staff US.A.F attn Dir of…
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Re: Flying Disc
HO 12/28/48
While observing the object, Mr. NOACK noted an aluminum
cyJ1nder which had become detached from one of the wing
tips and he brought this back with him as a souvenir. This
cylinder conceivably could act as a rudder, a rocket
housing, or fuel tank attachment. Mr. NOACK initialled
the cylinder and surrendered it also.
There are attached hereto for the Bureau two copies of a
signed statement taken from Mr. NOACK dated Houston, Texas,
12/28/48. Two copies of the statement are attached for
the Los Angeles Office, and one informational copy is being
designated for the Cincinnati Division. The original is
being retained in the Houston file. One copy of the statement
is attached to the copy of this letter for the FBI Laboratory.
During the interview with Mr. NOACK, Mrs. ROSE C. ROTSEL, a
stenographer for O.S.I., Ellington Field, recorded the
statement for O.S.I . use .
Initial information obtained concerning this flying disc
was furnished telephonically to Inspector Howard Fletcher
at the Bureau, 9 A.M., 12/28/48. Mr . Fletcher requested
the Bureau be given a summary of the information by teletype,
with interested offices being similarly notified, and that
the signed statement of NOACK be submitted AMSD. He further
instructed that he did not want the Bureau "side tracked" in
the handling of this matter, but that FBI representatives
should assume an active interest in the investigation
throughout, cooperating, of course, with O.S.I. representatives.
Mr . Fleming's headquarters are the District Commander, 5th
o.s.r . District, Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio. On the morning
of 12/28/48 Mr. Fleming sent a telegram to his District
Commander giving a general summary of the original complaint.
Mr. Fleming was unable to advise how the 5th o.s.r. District
would handle their inquiry in this matter. He stated this
could either be handled by Wright Field dispatching a special
plane to California or by having their District Commander, 18D,
O. S.I . , San Bernardino, California handle it. He stated
1n any event it would be necessary for O.S.I. representatives
to first confer with Mr . R. C. PERSON, named in this statement,
as being the individual who initially discovered the flying
disc and would lmow also its present whereabouts.
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