Project Blue Book Socorro file

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# 'Talked With Occupants'

# Man Here Claims He Saw Saucers 5 Times

By MARTIN PASKIND

"I don't know why they picked me," said Apolinar A. Villa Jr. "I'm just an ordinary working man just a mechanic.

"They said there was a purpose. What it is, I don't know."

Five times in about five years, says "Paul" Villa, he has seen flying saucers. Twice, he has talked to their occupants.

And once, he says, he returned from his encounter with a roll of film. If Villa is the victim of fantasy, it's fantasy in Kodacolor.

Villa, 47, lives with his son and daughter-in-law in a trailer behind 601 Nia gara NE. Born in Tijeras, he attended Longfellow Elementary School and Lincoln Junior High School.

He quit during his first year at Albuquerque High School. Since then, he served in the Army. Air Force. A mechanic, Villa works for N. C. Ribble and Co. here. "The pictures are authentic. They're the real thing," he says. "There are a lot of things I can't say — because so help me God, I don't think anybody would believe it. But the pictures are the real thing."

Villa who is not surprised at recent saucer sightings, took his pictures with a Japanese camera the last time he saw the saucers, he said. Last June 16, he said, he spent from 2:30 to 4 in the afternoon with the people men and women borne by the space machine.

The saucer's occupants, said Villa, were not superhuman. But they were superior to our species in physical

qualities, and in quality of knowledge.

Expect Volcanic Activity

Saucer crewmembers, he said, expect a large-scale renewal of volcanic activity along the volcano rim just west of here. And they expect it soon.

This year, they expect catastrophic war between Russia and China a war that will involve many Asian nations.

Why hasn't Villa sought a place of safety? "We can't get away from what God has decreed for us," he said.

Villa's said his first saucer sighting came on the West Coast, when he conversed with the occupant of a small saucer.

Twice, the devices hovered over his home, then at 4187 Edith NE. The second time, the home was burned, Villa said. The burning was for disciplinary reasons.

Sighting Near Lindrith

Once Villa sighted a saucer near Lindrith. This was the largest----about 900 feet in diameter.

The saucer he viewed near Peralta was about 160 feet across, Villa said.

From it stepped a number of people from the far-distant galaxy of Coma Berenices, imaginably far distant from here.

In the meeting, and in telepathic contacts before and since, Villa said he acquired fragments of the starmen's knowledge.

It was his effort to convert parts of this knowledge to his own profit, says Villa, that resulted in a stream of ill fortune. His home burned totally and without insurance. He shot himself in the arm. He went through bankruptcy. Friendly People "They seemed to have

Friendliness notwithstanding, they left Villa in no doubt about what would happen should he persist in efforts to duplicate their devices.

known me for a long time," said Villa. "There were lots of things they had answers for. They were a very friendly sort of people."

Villa said the starmen are interested in New Mexico because of a magnetic fault in Farmington-their ships travel "magnetic lines."

"They put a lot of stress on New Mexico and parts of Arizona and Utah," he said. "They mentioned something about volcanoes."

Clothed in tight-fitting one piece uniform, the starmen made an attractive crew. And what did they think of us?

"Their opinion is not that we're bad or good," Villa said. Nor will they attempt to save the human race from itself.

"They know that there is a super intelligence that governs all the universe and everything in it," he said.