“Nevers”49 pages
- p. 17 …of alien beings and elusive vehicles which never quite
seem to manifest themselves. Regardless of one…
- p. 31 …Conversely, there
has never been any previous documentary evidence produced by those who
would debunk the…
- p. 32 …This had never been
officially done before, although most of the persons contacted reported that they…
- p. 40 …Lt Col Cavitt also
stated that he had never taken any oath or signed any agreement…
- p. 77 …Because this conclusion is based on
the absence of documentation, the issue can never be definitively…
- p. 99 …H written, there is
good evidence through accessioning and microfilming records that the Agency never
received…
- p. 101 …histories and
supporting documents, and it has never routinely received the kind of records which
might…
- p. 159 …I have never been sworn to any form of secrecy by anyone concerning this matter and…
- p. 165 …It never crossed my mind that it could be anything but a radio sonde.
RW: How…
- p. 168 …as far as I knew, I never heard anyone say, "Don't talk about this
and…
- p. 169 …I never met LaPaz personally, but I knew what he was.
RW: Did Rickett go with…
- p. 170 …I forget since I was there in the Washington
area for awhile but I never did…
- p. 172 …To the best of my recollection, I never met the rancher, Brazel.
RW: O.K., because…
- p. 173 …rve never seen a Geiger counter myseU: but I didn't know if you knew what…
- p. 174 …ordered Marcel to accompany the rancher back
to Corona, •· You said you never saw... and then…
- p. 175 …I never had any idea that it was anything with the V-2. They told us…
- p. 177 …You and I never saw this. You don't see
any military people or military vehicles…
- p. 178 …said in a facetious way: "Lets make out like it never existed, because we're wasting…
- p. 179 …to him the crash and recovery had never happened.
There was no investigation on the Foster…
- p. 182 …No, I never saw this.
SC: I don't know what that is from.
RW: "But…
- p. 183 …So, some of there
records were TS and still are.) That is because they have never…
- p. 185 …Cav never
told me anything. He said nl never tell you anything then you won't…
- p. 189 …I am quite sure that we never gave it a thought until that book.
- p. 190 …Now, we have never found the ftight records to
substantiate that, so I don't know…
- p. 202 …related
to this inquicy and I have never been threatened by US Government persons concerning not…
- p. 207 …related to this inquiry
and I have never been threatened by US Government persons concerning refraining…
- p. 213 …We never considered a ..planneq cover story; we were concerned with security.
I was the project…
- p. 214 …I never obsCJVed any of the balloon "trains" but I
did see some of the early…
- p. 225 …and subsequent models were
brand new, had never flown anything like that in this area.
A…
- p. 228 …I'd never heard the
name Mogul -- the classification was that high. I knew what we…
- p. 240 …I just wanted to see
if there had been anything stated to you never to discuss…
- p. 242 …but I never knew Marcel.
in my mind, and there are
Yeah, I knew that guy…
- p. 243 …I've never seen a Japanese balloon that I know
of, I've never seen the…
- p. 246 …No, I've never seen this.
Trakowski argued that even the name Mogul was classified,
and…
- p. 249 …Out PM with
several NYU men by weapons carrier, but we never located it.
Rocket postponed…
- p. 264 …As far as I know we just
never interfaced with the military.
Q: Where were you…
- p. 266 …We never saw
anybody in security. There was certainly nobody keeping us
secure. If anything, we…
- p. 273 …who was writing a story,
and I never quite could determine whether he was on the…
- p. 274 …I have never seen such a document nor have I ever heard of
any effort to…
- p. 277 …radar
reflectors for tracking purposes-but it never comes out talking about MOGUL and the instrumentation…
- p. 278 …I never met Richard Robert Crane. I knew him only by the path of debris he…
- p. 282 …They never said it, but I know they did because they left me free to
do…
- p. 318 …Before now, however, a larger portion of the story was never
told. Recent research indicates that…
- p. 320 …and Project MOGUL as first conceived was never put into operational 1use.
However, MOGUL did serve…
- p. 321 …Moore, NYU Constant-Level
Balloon Project Engineer, stated that they were never informed of the classified…
- p. 567 …and this flight 11as never recovered. Pre-
sumably the marked easterly flow then observed above 60…
- p. 591 …ficienoy since on-ot.f' operation was never per-
mitted.
The temperature data of' these flights…
- p. 740 …The theodolite lost the balloon in clouds earlier and
the airplane observer never succeeded in seeing…
- p. 815 …Out pm with several NYU by weapon carrier but we never located it. Rocket
postponed until…
have also been used to protect our atomic secrets from the Soviets, which history
has showed obviously was not the case). The records reviewed confirmed that no
such sophisticated and efficient security system existed.
WHAT THE "ROSWELL INCIDENT" WAS
As previously discussed, what was originally reported to have been recovered
was a balloon of some sort, usually described as a "weather balloon," although
the majority of the wreckage that was ultimately displayed by General Ramey
and Major Marcel in the famous photos (Atch 16) in Fort Worth was that of a
radar target normally suspended from balloons. This radar target, discussed in
more detail later, was certainly consistent with the description of July 9 newspa-
per article which discussed "tinfoil, paper, tape, and sticks." Additionally, the
description of the "flying disc" was consistent with a document routinely used
by most pro-UFO writers to indicate a conspiracy in progress-the telegram from
the Dallas FBI office of July 8, 1947. This document quoted in part states:"... The
disc is hexagonal in shape and was suspended from a balloon by a cable, which
balloon was approximately twenty feet in diameter.... the object found resem-
bles a high altitude weather balloon with a radar reflector.... disc and balloon
being transported . . . ."
Similarly, while conducting the popular literature review, one of the documents
reviewed was a paper entitled "The Roswell Events" edited by Fred Whiting and
sponsored by the Fund for UFO Research (FUFOR). Although it was not the
original intention to comment on what commercial authors interpreted or claimed
that other persons supposedly said, this particular document was different
because it contained actual copies of apparently authentic sworn affidavits
received from a number of persons who claimed to have some knowledge of the
Roswell event. Although many of the persons who provided these affidavits to
the FUFOR researchers also expressed opinions that they thought there was
something extraterrestrial about this incident, a number of them actually
described materials that sounded suspiciously like wreckage fro!Jl balloons. These
included the following:
Jesse A. Marcel, MD (son of the late Major Jesse Marcel; 11 years old at the time
of the incident). Affidavit dated May 6, 1991. " ... There were three categories of
debris: a thick, foil like metallic gray substance; a brittle, brownish-black plastic-
like material, like Bakelite; and there were fragments of what appeared to be I-
beams. On the inner surface of the I-beam, there appeared to be a type of writing.
This writing was a purple-violet hue, and it had an embossed appearance. The
figures were composed of curved, geometric shapes. It had no resemblance to
Russian, Japanese or any other foreign language. It resembled hieroglyphics, but
it had no animal-like characters.... "
Loretta Proctor (former neighbor of rancher W.W. Brazel). Affidavit dated May
5, 1991. " ... Brazel came to my ranch and showed my husband and me a piece
of material he said came from a large pile of debris on the property he managed.
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