“Nevers”49 pages
- p. 17 …of alien beings and elusive vehicles which never quite
seem to manifest themselves. Regardless of one…
- p. 31 …Conversely, there
has never been any previous documentary evidence produced by those who
would debunk the…
- p. 32 …This had never been
officially done before, although most of the persons contacted reported that they…
- p. 40 …Lt Col Cavitt also
stated that he had never taken any oath or signed any agreement…
- p. 77 …Because this conclusion is based on
the absence of documentation, the issue can never be definitively…
- p. 99 …H written, there is
good evidence through accessioning and microfilming records that the Agency never
received…
- p. 101 …histories and
supporting documents, and it has never routinely received the kind of records which
might…
- p. 159 …I have never been sworn to any form of secrecy by anyone concerning this matter and…
- p. 165 …It never crossed my mind that it could be anything but a radio sonde.
RW: How…
- p. 168 …as far as I knew, I never heard anyone say, "Don't talk about this
and…
- p. 169 …I never met LaPaz personally, but I knew what he was.
RW: Did Rickett go with…
- p. 170 …I forget since I was there in the Washington
area for awhile but I never did…
- p. 172 …To the best of my recollection, I never met the rancher, Brazel.
RW: O.K., because…
- p. 173 …rve never seen a Geiger counter myseU: but I didn't know if you knew what…
- p. 174 …ordered Marcel to accompany the rancher back
to Corona, •· You said you never saw... and then…
- p. 175 …I never had any idea that it was anything with the V-2. They told us…
- p. 177 …You and I never saw this. You don't see
any military people or military vehicles…
- p. 178 …said in a facetious way: "Lets make out like it never existed, because we're wasting…
- p. 179 …to him the crash and recovery had never happened.
There was no investigation on the Foster…
- p. 182 …No, I never saw this.
SC: I don't know what that is from.
RW: "But…
- p. 183 …So, some of there
records were TS and still are.) That is because they have never…
- p. 185 …Cav never
told me anything. He said nl never tell you anything then you won't…
- p. 189 …I am quite sure that we never gave it a thought until that book.
- p. 190 …Now, we have never found the ftight records to
substantiate that, so I don't know…
- p. 202 …related
to this inquicy and I have never been threatened by US Government persons concerning not…
- p. 207 …related to this inquiry
and I have never been threatened by US Government persons concerning refraining…
- p. 213 …We never considered a ..planneq cover story; we were concerned with security.
I was the project…
- p. 214 …I never obsCJVed any of the balloon "trains" but I
did see some of the early…
- p. 225 …and subsequent models were
brand new, had never flown anything like that in this area.
A…
- p. 228 …I'd never heard the
name Mogul -- the classification was that high. I knew what we…
- p. 240 …I just wanted to see
if there had been anything stated to you never to discuss…
- p. 242 …but I never knew Marcel.
in my mind, and there are
Yeah, I knew that guy…
- p. 243 …I've never seen a Japanese balloon that I know
of, I've never seen the…
- p. 246 …No, I've never seen this.
Trakowski argued that even the name Mogul was classified,
and…
- p. 249 …Out PM with
several NYU men by weapons carrier, but we never located it.
Rocket postponed…
- p. 264 …As far as I know we just
never interfaced with the military.
Q: Where were you…
- p. 266 …We never saw
anybody in security. There was certainly nobody keeping us
secure. If anything, we…
- p. 273 …who was writing a story,
and I never quite could determine whether he was on the…
- p. 274 …I have never seen such a document nor have I ever heard of
any effort to…
- p. 277 …radar
reflectors for tracking purposes-but it never comes out talking about MOGUL and the instrumentation…
- p. 278 …I never met Richard Robert Crane. I knew him only by the path of debris he…
- p. 282 …They never said it, but I know they did because they left me free to
do…
- p. 318 …Before now, however, a larger portion of the story was never
told. Recent research indicates that…
- p. 320 …and Project MOGUL as first conceived was never put into operational 1use.
However, MOGUL did serve…
- p. 321 …Moore, NYU Constant-Level
Balloon Project Engineer, stated that they were never informed of the classified…
- p. 567 …and this flight 11as never recovered. Pre-
sumably the marked easterly flow then observed above 60…
- p. 591 …ficienoy since on-ot.f' operation was never per-
mitted.
The temperature data of' these flights…
- p. 740 …The theodolite lost the balloon in clouds earlier and
the airplane observer never succeeded in seeing…
- p. 815 …Out pm with several NYU by weapon carrier but we never located it. Rocket
postponed until…
including the boiling of balloons before launch (which he personally developed
during World War II) and a stepladder used to launch balloons, could not all
have coincidentally been used by other organizations.45
The details may have been provided to the radar officers by Crary, Project MOGUL
Field Operations Director, who did not depart by C-54 with the rest of the
NYU /Watson Laboratory group on July 8, but who later left by car on Ju]y 9, the
day the staged launch took place. Additionally, three of Crary's staff, Don
Reynolds, Sol Oliva, and Bill Edmonston, resided permanently in Alamogordo.
It was apparent from Crary's diary that he had worked very closely with Major
Pritchard and reported to him on occasion (twelve documented meetings from
December 1946-April1947). One instance, on April 7, 1947, Crary gave Pritchard
a "progress report for MOGUL project to date," indicating that Major Pritchard had
access to MOGUL information.46 Another statement which appeared to confirm a
cover story appeared in the caption below the balloon picture and described a
typewritten tag stapled to the target identifying it as having come from Alamo-
gordo AAF. Moore believed this not to be true because any equipment foulnd was
not to be associated with the USAAF, only with NYU; therefore flights carried·
"return to" tags identifying NYU as the responsible agency.47
CONCLUSION
Many of the claims surrounding the events of July 1947 could be neither proved
nor disproved. Attempts were not made to investigate every allegation, but rather
to start with what was known and work toward the unknown. To complicate the
situation, events described here took place nearly 50 years ago and were highly
classified. This Top Secret project appeared to have utilized the contept of
compartmentalization very well. Interviews with individuals and review of
documents of organizations revealed that the ultimate objective of the work, or
even the name of the project, in many instances was not known. It was unlikely,
therefore, that personnel from Roswell AAF, even though they possessed the
appropriate clearances, would have known about project MOGUL. In fad, when
the NYU I AMC group returned to Alamogordo in September, their first tdp since
the "incident" occurred, one of the first activities of the project scientists, Peoples
and Crary, who were accompanied by Major Pritchard and Captain Dyvad, was
to brief the commanding officer of Alamogordo AAF and the 509th Bomb Group
Operations Officer, Lt Col Joseph Briley, on MOGUL.48
45. Moore intvw, Jun 8, 1994.
46. Crary personal journal, p. 10.
47. Moore intvw, Jun 8, 1994; Research Division, College of Engineering, NYU, Technical Report
No. 93.02, Constant Level Balloons, Sect 2, Operations, Jan 31, 1949, pp. 36-38.
48. Combined Hist, 509th Bomb Grp and Roswell AAF, Sep 1-30, 1947, p. 79; Untr~scribed
journal of Albert P. Crary, p. 64.