“Nevers”49 pages
- p. 17 …of alien beings and elusive vehicles which never quite
seem to manifest themselves. Regardless of one…
- p. 31 …Conversely, there
has never been any previous documentary evidence produced by those who
would debunk the…
- p. 32 …This had never been
officially done before, although most of the persons contacted reported that they…
- p. 40 …Lt Col Cavitt also
stated that he had never taken any oath or signed any agreement…
- p. 77 …Because this conclusion is based on
the absence of documentation, the issue can never be definitively…
- p. 99 …H written, there is
good evidence through accessioning and microfilming records that the Agency never
received…
- p. 101 …histories and
supporting documents, and it has never routinely received the kind of records which
might…
- p. 159 …I have never been sworn to any form of secrecy by anyone concerning this matter and…
- p. 165 …It never crossed my mind that it could be anything but a radio sonde.
RW: How…
- p. 168 …as far as I knew, I never heard anyone say, "Don't talk about this
and…
- p. 169 …I never met LaPaz personally, but I knew what he was.
RW: Did Rickett go with…
- p. 170 …I forget since I was there in the Washington
area for awhile but I never did…
- p. 172 …To the best of my recollection, I never met the rancher, Brazel.
RW: O.K., because…
- p. 173 …rve never seen a Geiger counter myseU: but I didn't know if you knew what…
- p. 174 …ordered Marcel to accompany the rancher back
to Corona, •· You said you never saw... and then…
- p. 175 …I never had any idea that it was anything with the V-2. They told us…
- p. 177 …You and I never saw this. You don't see
any military people or military vehicles…
- p. 178 …said in a facetious way: "Lets make out like it never existed, because we're wasting…
- p. 179 …to him the crash and recovery had never happened.
There was no investigation on the Foster…
- p. 182 …No, I never saw this.
SC: I don't know what that is from.
RW: "But…
- p. 183 …So, some of there
records were TS and still are.) That is because they have never…
- p. 185 …Cav never
told me anything. He said nl never tell you anything then you won't…
- p. 189 …I am quite sure that we never gave it a thought until that book.
- p. 190 …Now, we have never found the ftight records to
substantiate that, so I don't know…
- p. 202 …related
to this inquicy and I have never been threatened by US Government persons concerning not…
- p. 207 …related to this inquiry
and I have never been threatened by US Government persons concerning refraining…
- p. 213 …We never considered a ..planneq cover story; we were concerned with security.
I was the project…
- p. 214 …I never obsCJVed any of the balloon "trains" but I
did see some of the early…
- p. 225 …and subsequent models were
brand new, had never flown anything like that in this area.
A…
- p. 228 …I'd never heard the
name Mogul -- the classification was that high. I knew what we…
- p. 240 …I just wanted to see
if there had been anything stated to you never to discuss…
- p. 242 …but I never knew Marcel.
in my mind, and there are
Yeah, I knew that guy…
- p. 243 …I've never seen a Japanese balloon that I know
of, I've never seen the…
- p. 246 …No, I've never seen this.
Trakowski argued that even the name Mogul was classified,
and…
- p. 249 …Out PM with
several NYU men by weapons carrier, but we never located it.
Rocket postponed…
- p. 264 …As far as I know we just
never interfaced with the military.
Q: Where were you…
- p. 266 …We never saw
anybody in security. There was certainly nobody keeping us
secure. If anything, we…
- p. 273 …who was writing a story,
and I never quite could determine whether he was on the…
- p. 274 …I have never seen such a document nor have I ever heard of
any effort to…
- p. 277 …radar
reflectors for tracking purposes-but it never comes out talking about MOGUL and the instrumentation…
- p. 278 …I never met Richard Robert Crane. I knew him only by the path of debris he…
- p. 282 …They never said it, but I know they did because they left me free to
do…
- p. 318 …Before now, however, a larger portion of the story was never
told. Recent research indicates that…
- p. 320 …and Project MOGUL as first conceived was never put into operational 1use.
However, MOGUL did serve…
- p. 321 …Moore, NYU Constant-Level
Balloon Project Engineer, stated that they were never informed of the classified…
- p. 567 …and this flight 11as never recovered. Pre-
sumably the marked easterly flow then observed above 60…
- p. 591 …ficienoy since on-ot.f' operation was never per-
mitted.
The temperature data of' these flights…
- p. 740 …The theodolite lost the balloon in clouds earlier and
the airplane observer never succeeded in seeing…
- p. 815 …Out pm with several NYU by weapon carrier but we never located it. Rocket
postponed until…
New York University, in accordance with contractual requirements, produced
monthly progress reports, technical reports, and final reports detailing the VC).rious
aspects of the balloon and telemetering research. In addition, Crary maintlained
a detailed journal of his work throughout his professional career to incluc,le the
summer of 1947. The following discussion is based on these two documents and
interviews with Moore, who was present on all three of the Alamogordq field
trips, and, with Trakowski, who was present at the Alamogordo II and II. field
trips.
NOTE: Technical Report No. 1, Table VII, "Summary of NYU Constant,Level
Balloon Flights," and Technical Report No. 93.02, Constant Level Balloons, S¢ction
3, "Summary of Flights," do not fully account for all balloons flown durir).g the
initial stages of the contract to include the Alamogordo I field trip. Absent' from
the reports are service flight nos. 2, 3, and 4. Flight no. 2 was flown on April18,
1947, at Bethlehem, PA, in an attempt to obtain acoustical data from the explosion
of 5,000 tons of TNT by the British on the German island of Helgoland.18
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NYU
flight no. 3 was flown on May 29, followed by NYU flight no. 4 on June 4., Both
launched from Alamogordo AAF.
ALAMOGORDO I (May 28, 1947-June 7, 1947)
The first NYU "field trip" departed Olmstead Field, Middletown, PA, by C~7 for
Alamogordo AAF on May 31, 1947, arriving on June 1, 1947.19 Present Olll this
flight was C.B. Moore, NYU Project Engineer, Charles S. Schneider, NYU Project
Director, and other supporting staff members from both NYU and Watson
Laboratories. A.P. Crary, along with other personnel from Watson LaborCjltory,
were already present in Alamogordo, but they did not conduct any bc:dloon
operations. During this time, Crary and several technicians detonated ground
explosives, or "shots," for sound-wave generation purposes, on the nearby White
Sands Proving Ground. These detonations were monitored by ground-based GR3
and GR8 sound ranging equipment at locations in New Mexico and West T~xas. 20
On May 28, the advance party of the balloon group arrived by B-17.21 On May
29, the advance team made the first launch for Project MOGUL from Alamogordo
(NYU flight no. 3). The equipment carried on this flight was identifi¢d as
essentially the same as that carried on NYU flight no. 2 (Atch 3 ). 22 NYU flight no.
4 was launched on June 4, with a configuration the same as on flight nos. 2 and
3. Crary's diary indicated that flight no. 4 consisted of a "cluster of (meteor(>logi-
cal) balloons" and a "regular sonobuoy."23 Presumably, flight no. 3 was config-
ured the same.
18. Research Division, College of Engineering, NYU, Special Report No. 1, Constant Level ~alloon,
May 1947 (hereafter NYU, Special Report No. 1), p. 27.
19. Personal journal of Albert P. Crary, p. 13.
20. Ibid., pp. 4-16.
21. Ibid., p. 13.
22. NYU, Progress Report No. 6, Sect II, p. 5.
23. Crary personal journal, p. 12.