“Nevers”49 pages
- p. 17 …of alien beings and elusive vehicles which never quite
seem to manifest themselves. Regardless of one…
- p. 31 …Conversely, there
has never been any previous documentary evidence produced by those who
would debunk the…
- p. 32 …This had never been
officially done before, although most of the persons contacted reported that they…
- p. 40 …Lt Col Cavitt also
stated that he had never taken any oath or signed any agreement…
- p. 77 …Because this conclusion is based on
the absence of documentation, the issue can never be definitively…
- p. 99 …H written, there is
good evidence through accessioning and microfilming records that the Agency never
received…
- p. 101 …histories and
supporting documents, and it has never routinely received the kind of records which
might…
- p. 159 …I have never been sworn to any form of secrecy by anyone concerning this matter and…
- p. 165 …It never crossed my mind that it could be anything but a radio sonde.
RW: How…
- p. 168 …as far as I knew, I never heard anyone say, "Don't talk about this
and…
- p. 169 …I never met LaPaz personally, but I knew what he was.
RW: Did Rickett go with…
- p. 170 …I forget since I was there in the Washington
area for awhile but I never did…
- p. 172 …To the best of my recollection, I never met the rancher, Brazel.
RW: O.K., because…
- p. 173 …rve never seen a Geiger counter myseU: but I didn't know if you knew what…
- p. 174 …ordered Marcel to accompany the rancher back
to Corona, •· You said you never saw... and then…
- p. 175 …I never had any idea that it was anything with the V-2. They told us…
- p. 177 …You and I never saw this. You don't see
any military people or military vehicles…
- p. 178 …said in a facetious way: "Lets make out like it never existed, because we're wasting…
- p. 179 …to him the crash and recovery had never happened.
There was no investigation on the Foster…
- p. 182 …No, I never saw this.
SC: I don't know what that is from.
RW: "But…
- p. 183 …So, some of there
records were TS and still are.) That is because they have never…
- p. 185 …Cav never
told me anything. He said nl never tell you anything then you won't…
- p. 189 …I am quite sure that we never gave it a thought until that book.
- p. 190 …Now, we have never found the ftight records to
substantiate that, so I don't know…
- p. 202 …related
to this inquicy and I have never been threatened by US Government persons concerning not…
- p. 207 …related to this inquiry
and I have never been threatened by US Government persons concerning refraining…
- p. 213 …We never considered a ..planneq cover story; we were concerned with security.
I was the project…
- p. 214 …I never obsCJVed any of the balloon "trains" but I
did see some of the early…
- p. 225 …and subsequent models were
brand new, had never flown anything like that in this area.
A…
- p. 228 …I'd never heard the
name Mogul -- the classification was that high. I knew what we…
- p. 240 …I just wanted to see
if there had been anything stated to you never to discuss…
- p. 242 …but I never knew Marcel.
in my mind, and there are
Yeah, I knew that guy…
- p. 243 …I've never seen a Japanese balloon that I know
of, I've never seen the…
- p. 246 …No, I've never seen this.
Trakowski argued that even the name Mogul was classified,
and…
- p. 249 …Out PM with
several NYU men by weapons carrier, but we never located it.
Rocket postponed…
- p. 264 …As far as I know we just
never interfaced with the military.
Q: Where were you…
- p. 266 …We never saw
anybody in security. There was certainly nobody keeping us
secure. If anything, we…
- p. 273 …who was writing a story,
and I never quite could determine whether he was on the…
- p. 274 …I have never seen such a document nor have I ever heard of
any effort to…
- p. 277 …radar
reflectors for tracking purposes-but it never comes out talking about MOGUL and the instrumentation…
- p. 278 …I never met Richard Robert Crane. I knew him only by the path of debris he…
- p. 282 …They never said it, but I know they did because they left me free to
do…
- p. 318 …Before now, however, a larger portion of the story was never
told. Recent research indicates that…
- p. 320 …and Project MOGUL as first conceived was never put into operational 1use.
However, MOGUL did serve…
- p. 321 …Moore, NYU Constant-Level
Balloon Project Engineer, stated that they were never informed of the classified…
- p. 567 …and this flight 11as never recovered. Pre-
sumably the marked easterly flow then observed above 60…
- p. 591 …ficienoy since on-ot.f' operation was never per-
mitted.
The temperature data of' these flights…
- p. 740 …The theodolite lost the balloon in clouds earlier and
the airplane observer never succeeded in seeing…
- p. 815 …Out pm with several NYU by weapon carrier but we never located it. Rocket
postponed until…
PROFESSOR MOORE - 6/8/94
A: By a pressure switch.
Q: were those tracked? Was there some sort of log that
would tell you where those particular balloons were? You
wouldn't want to just release TNT to float anywhere, would you?
A: They wouldn't float. The balloons would just go up
until they burst. And we were on the edge of the restricted
area. So the answer is yes, we did.
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I'll have to get back to this. The radar tracking turned
out to be abysmally poor. I don't know why, but they were
abysmally poor. That's why I got off onto this part of it. And
when you asked me the V-2 question ••.
Let me finish this, and then we'll get back to what you
asked.
"Thursday morning, cluster of GM balloons sent out, V-2 not
fired, no shots fired. Balloons up for some time, no recording.
Pi Ball showed no West winds. Balloons picked up by radar, WS."
I presume that means White Sands. You'll find this hard .•• and
hunted by somebody's name I couldn't get. It looks like
Maryalls' "C-54, located on Tulerosa Range by air. Out PM with
several NYU men by weapons carrier, but we never located it.
Rocket postponed until 7:30 p.m. Thursday night," which was the
third. "But on last minute before balloon went up, V-2 was
called off on of accident at White Sands. Sent up cluster
balloons with dummy load. Balloon Flight 10 on dawn, July 5th,
had gone out with C-54, again with Moses and Dufeld to hunt for
Flight 8 but not sure was found then."
Then I added a note here, "Flight 8 was never recovered."
"C-54 went to El Paso July 4th and picked up single smith
plastic balloon and GM cluster plastic balloons."
So the answer is yes. We did try to coordinate the balloon
launchings for the V-2 firings, and Crary would also take that as
a time of opportunity to go out on the desert and fire TNT. He
had vast stocks of explosives available to him.
Q: Was that primarily on the White Sands range, or did he
go out into other areas, say Northwest of Roswell? Did he
contract with any of the ranchers to use these locales, other
than the actual missile range itself?
A: I think all the explosions he made were coordinated
with the White Sands Proving Ground people. Alamagordo Airfield,
later Holloman, was just on the fringe of the proving ground at
that time. Crary sent his men to all sorts of places -- over to
Roswell, to Artesia, to Hagerman, up and down the Pecos River
area. He had a place you'll read about, Fabians, Texas, which
turns out to be just down the Rio Grande from El Paso, maybe so