“Nevers”49 pages
- p. 17 …of alien beings and elusive vehicles which never quite
seem to manifest themselves. Regardless of one…
- p. 31 …Conversely, there
has never been any previous documentary evidence produced by those who
would debunk the…
- p. 32 …This had never been
officially done before, although most of the persons contacted reported that they…
- p. 40 …Lt Col Cavitt also
stated that he had never taken any oath or signed any agreement…
- p. 77 …Because this conclusion is based on
the absence of documentation, the issue can never be definitively…
- p. 99 …H written, there is
good evidence through accessioning and microfilming records that the Agency never
received…
- p. 101 …histories and
supporting documents, and it has never routinely received the kind of records which
might…
- p. 159 …I have never been sworn to any form of secrecy by anyone concerning this matter and…
- p. 165 …It never crossed my mind that it could be anything but a radio sonde.
RW: How…
- p. 168 …as far as I knew, I never heard anyone say, "Don't talk about this
and…
- p. 169 …I never met LaPaz personally, but I knew what he was.
RW: Did Rickett go with…
- p. 170 …I forget since I was there in the Washington
area for awhile but I never did…
- p. 172 …To the best of my recollection, I never met the rancher, Brazel.
RW: O.K., because…
- p. 173 …rve never seen a Geiger counter myseU: but I didn't know if you knew what…
- p. 174 …ordered Marcel to accompany the rancher back
to Corona, •· You said you never saw... and then…
- p. 175 …I never had any idea that it was anything with the V-2. They told us…
- p. 177 …You and I never saw this. You don't see
any military people or military vehicles…
- p. 178 …said in a facetious way: "Lets make out like it never existed, because we're wasting…
- p. 179 …to him the crash and recovery had never happened.
There was no investigation on the Foster…
- p. 182 …No, I never saw this.
SC: I don't know what that is from.
RW: "But…
- p. 183 …So, some of there
records were TS and still are.) That is because they have never…
- p. 185 …Cav never
told me anything. He said nl never tell you anything then you won't…
- p. 189 …I am quite sure that we never gave it a thought until that book.
- p. 190 …Now, we have never found the ftight records to
substantiate that, so I don't know…
- p. 202 …related
to this inquicy and I have never been threatened by US Government persons concerning not…
- p. 207 …related to this inquiry
and I have never been threatened by US Government persons concerning refraining…
- p. 213 …We never considered a ..planneq cover story; we were concerned with security.
I was the project…
- p. 214 …I never obsCJVed any of the balloon "trains" but I
did see some of the early…
- p. 225 …and subsequent models were
brand new, had never flown anything like that in this area.
A…
- p. 228 …I'd never heard the
name Mogul -- the classification was that high. I knew what we…
- p. 240 …I just wanted to see
if there had been anything stated to you never to discuss…
- p. 242 …but I never knew Marcel.
in my mind, and there are
Yeah, I knew that guy…
- p. 243 …I've never seen a Japanese balloon that I know
of, I've never seen the…
- p. 246 …No, I've never seen this.
Trakowski argued that even the name Mogul was classified,
and…
- p. 249 …Out PM with
several NYU men by weapons carrier, but we never located it.
Rocket postponed…
- p. 264 …As far as I know we just
never interfaced with the military.
Q: Where were you…
- p. 266 …We never saw
anybody in security. There was certainly nobody keeping us
secure. If anything, we…
- p. 273 …who was writing a story,
and I never quite could determine whether he was on the…
- p. 274 …I have never seen such a document nor have I ever heard of
any effort to…
- p. 277 …radar
reflectors for tracking purposes-but it never comes out talking about MOGUL and the instrumentation…
- p. 278 …I never met Richard Robert Crane. I knew him only by the path of debris he…
- p. 282 …They never said it, but I know they did because they left me free to
do…
- p. 318 …Before now, however, a larger portion of the story was never
told. Recent research indicates that…
- p. 320 …and Project MOGUL as first conceived was never put into operational 1use.
However, MOGUL did serve…
- p. 321 …Moore, NYU Constant-Level
Balloon Project Engineer, stated that they were never informed of the classified…
- p. 567 …and this flight 11as never recovered. Pre-
sumably the marked easterly flow then observed above 60…
- p. 591 …ficienoy since on-ot.f' operation was never per-
mitted.
The temperature data of' these flights…
- p. 740 …The theodolite lost the balloon in clouds earlier and
the airplane observer never succeeded in seeing…
- p. 815 …Out pm with several NYU by weapon carrier but we never located it. Rocket
postponed until…
PROFESSOR MOORE - 6/8/94 15
June 4th, "Out to Tulerosa Range and fired charges between
o-o and o-6" something. "No balloon flight again on account of
clouds. Flew regular sonobuoy mike with cluster balloons and had
good luck with receiver on ground but poor on plane." I think
that's Flight 4 right there.
Q: so that's June 4th.
A: As to that flight made by Mirs and Hackman earlier, we
have no record of it here in the NYU summary.
Q: If he flew that on June 4th and it carried the
microphones, the radar reflectors, that would have been with a
neoprene type balloon.
A: There were no plastic balloons delivered until the 28th
or 29th of June that year. So everything as evidenced on the
Helgeland flight that we made and the other flight, they were all
meteorological balloons prior to late June.
Q: That would have also had the B Model reflector, this
type of reflector, but the B Model?
A: My memory is that Jim Peoples, because we were being
sent down by B-17 and by air, didn't let us take the radiosonde
receiving equipment which at that time was very heavy. It was
like a 500 pound rack with a receiver, frequency meter, recorder,
etc., and we weren't allowed to use that. Instead, the idea was
that Peoples would provide tracking on the balloons with radar
targets and so on. So this is where I think the radar targets
come in. If you look in these reports you'll find here
statements, radiosonde reception, and you'll see 60 percent with
recorder, so percent without recorder, 100 percent without
recorder for June 5th. A hundred percent without recorder.
so I think we tried the radar targets, as I remember, our
contact who was a Captain Larry Dyvad found that they weren't
able to track our flights at all. They had a radar that was
entirely aimed at looking at the missiles. To look at slow
moving balloons with poor signal return was difficult for them.
So we started off with making single target flights. I think we
went to multiple target flights, and still didn't have any
success, so I began putting radiosondes and then just audibly, as
the tones would change, I would log it on a piece of paper. I'd
count the pressure... Are you familiar with radiosondes?
Q: Somewhat.
A: The commutator with the pressure contacts, etc. I
would count contacts and record it and you'll see in some of
these flight reports, there's two different interpretations
possible, depending on what the contact sequence was. An
ordinary radiosonde is very good for something that's going one
way. But for something that's going to go up and float, you can