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~t with your hands. There was also debris coUection on sticky paper. Most of the balloon projects
were not concerned ~ith weather--that's why there weren't radiosondes on all the balloons. The
"cosmic ray train" was probably just a cosmic ray ex~~t on one of our ballons. The balloons
were made of secri£ms and had tape reinforcements but ~recaJJ any specifics on the tape material.
Mylar was not called that originally--it may have originated as polyethelene. AU the polyethelcne
we use was of a translucent material. Neoprene was used during the war; generally for
meterological and artillery firing ballons. The artillery radar tracked the balloons with comer
reflectors--this ga·ve the vo.inds aloft to assist the gunners. The radar reflectors were sheets of
reflective material and they changed over time but I don't recall the details of the changes. On
reviewing Charlie !\loore's letter, the acoustic detection relates with the atomic debris coUection.
The reflectors were for tracking and was made up of a metaJized paper or fabric. Charlie explains
the flowers-rd heard about the flowers before, don't remember where-we used whatever we had
in the experimental realm. The targets were throw-aways-we didn't put a tag on them, maybe a
radiosonde, but not a target. Such a train would make gouges (shallow) as it was dragging the
ground. We used meterology as a cover story-it was a natural. It had a purpose beyond the
project--we could use the constant level analysis of the constant pressure (isobaric) vs constant
altitude to study atmospherics mathematically-therefore using it was natural. Ramey's press
conference-the Air Force position makes sense for the mistake that the PIO made in his
statements. (All the NYU personnel had left Alomogordo when the "material" was brought in-
someone stated that it may have been Col Duffy's and therefore sent it to him at Wright Patterson-
-not because it was extraterrestial) It is a logical reason to send it (the debris from the desert)
there-not because it was special--Col Duffy was a fine officer and rm sure he'd recognize it. I
was not aware of any association between our balloon projects and the aDcgcd "Roswell incident"
Wltil this interview. I am not part of any conspiracy to withhold infonnation from either the US
government or American public. There is no classified information that I am withholding related
to this inquicy and I have never been threatened by US Government persons concerning not talking
about this situation . ~
SIGNED:
WITNESS(s):
Subscribed and sworn to before me, a
person authorized to administer oaths
this
3rd day of June 1994
VA
~COL, USAF
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