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apparently, where you were at and picked up this material, and then there is another one 120 miles
or so away.
SC: A richochet.
R W: Yeah. Which at one time was on the Plains of San Augustin and now it has apparently in
this new book been changed to a location closer to Roswell. And. that's where these bodies were
supposedly recovered. I think their new research has to do with that aspect of it.
MC: Well we haven't seen it, but I know it came out in April.
RW: O.K. Lets see; also on the same page it said: "The CIC responded to the phone call. Jesse
Marcel was one. "The intelligence and the CIC responded to the phone call. Jesse Marcel was
one of them. Colonel Wdliam Blanchard and the other officer suggested that Marcel and CIC
agent accompanied Brazel to the ranch to see what was there." Braze~ of course, was the farmer
who apparently came in and made the original report.
SC: Yeah. To the best of my recollection, I never met the rancher, Brazel.
RW: O.K., because as I go through here you11 see that you're accused, I say "accused"; claimed,
to have been with him on a number of occasions and basically, it was alleged that the Army Air
Corps had imprisoned him, if you wit~ for about a week and kept him away from everybody. Not
that you personally did, but the Army Air Corps in general: "The trip to the ranch took the rest of
the afternoon ... they were forced to stay in a small cabin with no electricity no running water ... the
next morning they headed out into a field were Brazel had found the debris." So, this would have
been you and whoever else accompanied you.
SC: Totally, made up, or fabricated, or whatever. I didn't have any experiences like that of
spending the night out on the ranch.
MC: Eating a can of beans...
RW: Eating beans... yeah, that is, in fact, mentioned in one of the...
SC: Yeah.
RW: O.K. Now this: "Marcel would later say that the material was like nothing he had ever seen
and the metal was as thin as newsprint and as light as a feather. It was flexible but very strong.
He tried to dent it with a sledge hammer but Marcel and the CIC agent tried to bum it but it
would not bum. It was lighter, stronger and more fire resistant than any of them bad ever seen.
Marcel, along with the counterintelligence agent picked up as much as they could and begun
loading it up in Marcel's convertible and the counterintelligence agent's Jeep CarryaD vehicle with
a rear box." So, apparently, according to Marcel's version of the story (and I don't know when
this was given, sometime after 1978) you hammered on it and tried to rip it and did other stuff
with it and it was tike nothing you bad ever seen.