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This is a New Zealand Defence Force public release of RNZAF file AIR 39/3/3, "Flying Saucers," which covers 1952 to 1955 and was declassified in September 2010 under the Official Information Act. It collects sighting reports from the public and military personnel, press clippings, and a table of 1952 sightings. It also holds Carter Observatory opinions attributing some reports to meteors. A large part covers the inquiry into lights seen from National Airways Corporation Flight 108 on 31 October 1955, which the RNZAF could not fully explain as Venus.
“Nevers”58 pages
Q. Have you ever flown in a flying saucer?
A. Yes.
Q. How can they move with such speed and make those sharp turns?
A. That is very simple. We are moving at a terrific speed on earth, say on one phase of it there is $ 1 8 \frac{1}{2} $ miles, nearly 19 miles per second which is a 24 hour basis. And on the orbit side of the situation is 600,000,000 miles per year, and of course we know nothing about any speed of any kind that this earth is moving at all. And they have learned that law and have complied with nature and harnessed the same powers that motivates the planets and so they are able to create their own atmosphere, their own gravity and as a result of it they don't know anything about movement any more than we do on earth.
Q. How did you feel when you were travelling in one?
A. Not any more than I do on earth right now, or anybody else. We are sitting on this earth moving at this terrific speed and do not know anything about it.
Q. How far out did you go in the saucer?
A. Well, quite a way. I went over the moon, the other side of the moon and quite a distance.
Q. In the saucer?
A. Not in the saucer but in the mother ship. The saucer only picked me up on the ground and took me to the mother ship, some 20,000 feet up or so.
Q. Can a saucer travel into planetary?
A. No they cannot. They are carried by the mother ships or as they are known cigar-shaped types. Cigar-shaped types are a virtual power plant you might say.
Q. Do they recharge the saucers sometimes?
A. They do, yes.
Q. How large would you say the mother ships are?
A. Well the mother ships vary from 500 feet up to seven miles in length. They have been reported even larger than that, while the saucers again that are piloted are anything from 12 feet on to 1200 feet in diameter.
Q. Are they made of the same materials as the saucers?
A. Yes they are. They are made of very much the same material, except the mother ships are, of course, heavier material than the saucers, much heavier because they are bigger structure, bigger ships and call for greater strength.
Q. Are the instruments inside them the same as in the saucers?
A. No, in the mother ship there are many more instrumentals for many more purposes than what the saucers have. The saucer is nothing but a scout.
Q. Do the big ships ever come to earth or do they ever land on any planet?
A. Well they have been reported but nobody has been able to verify where they have landed, someplace, but I have never been able to track it down, but as far as I know they have not landed.
Q. Do they use the same type of power as the saucers?
A. Yes they are the major accumulator of this power it might be said, or condensors of this major power.
Q. They use motors, and transformers and aerials and such as that?
A. Yes, not aerials, well, they do in their way, for communications sometimes, but mostly it is generators and condensors and some motors, however those motors are very silent, but I wouldn't know whether they are really motors or not.
q. Why are they coming our way now?
A. Well, it is not because we are bad or indifferent; it is mostly because the earth itself is shifting and the evidence of standing for Admiral Bird, when at Little America prior to the war, and he reported that there was nothing but ice and snow there, yet in 1946 when he went there he reported that ice and snow are thawing and lakes are forming which proves beyond a shadow of doubt that the earth has taken a shift and is still shifting according to some scientists, and they are observing that as a relationship to the planet naturally. We are able to detect earthquakes at a great distance by seismographs, and they have instruments to be able to detect the shift like that of this earth and know the relationship between two planets on the magnetic line of force will change somewhat, and they are observing that and will watch it and are mapping it. Document, cited by the archive. The PDF is mirrored here; the original link is under it. The text was read from the page images by an OCR model; expect the odd misread word. 445 pages are in the text index: search them above, or from the library's search.