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NZDF declassified RNZAF UFO files

NZDF / RNZAF via Internet Archive · 2010-12 · 445 pages · text by OCR

This is a New Zealand Defence Force public release of RNZAF file AIR 39/3/3, "Flying Saucers," which covers 1952 to 1955 and was declassified in September 2010 under the Official Information Act. It collects sighting reports from the public and military personnel, press clippings, and a table of 1952 sightings. It also holds Carter Observatory opinions attributing some reports to meteors. A large part covers the inquiry into lights seen from National Airways Corporation Flight 108 on 31 October 1955, which the RNZAF could not fully explain as Venus.

  • p. 11 …I have never seen a planet move like that. My co-pilot (First Officer S G…
  • p. 22 …I can only add if anyone believes my something they have never seen then here's…
  • p. 50 …they have landed, someplace, but I have never been able to track it down, but as…
  • p. 51 …the space people? A. It was not. Never deliberate on their part, but our aggression and…
  • p. 52 …Well I was taken pretty close to one other planet like that of Venus but never…
  • p. 53 …to class-room, for graduation which is never attained because eternity is eternity. Do they have…
  • p. 62 …lot on this great took it has never been strong yet I gave my standing son…
  • p. 72 …I never read who-dunnits, and I shun thrillers like poison; I suppose I have to…
  • p. 91 …such things for personal files but have never had copies made. I can see the value…
  • p. 97 …g) No peculiarities except that I have never observed its like before. (h) Solid in appearance…
  • p. 126 …moment. "In all my flying I've never seen anything 'like it," he said today. Air…
  • p. 137 …Someplace, but I have never been able to track it down, but as far as I…
  • p. 138 …the space people? A. It was not. Never deliberate on their part, but our aggression and…
  • p. 139 …Well I was taken pretty close to one other planet like that of Venus but never…
  • p. 140 …to class-room, for graduation which is never attained because eternity is eternity. Q. Do they…
  • p. 145 …we are making them," stated Mr. Quarles. Never in the history of our subject have I…
  • p. 151 …I have never said that the Big Four gathered to discuss the question of the UFO…
  • p. 152 …The real issues at Geneva are not yet known, and may never be, but we are…
  • p. 157 …a subjective reason why more stories have never been related, especially so, where PROMINENT PEOPLE are…
  • p. 158 …Wallace's mother, whom we later interviewed, claimed that her son had never been so frightened…
  • p. 167 …the phenomenon of Horseheads, N.Y., may never be known. ## ******* ## THE SWEDISH GHOST ROCKETS by S…
  • p. 172 …ALTHOUGH THE STORY WAS WIDELY REPORTED, IT WAS NEVER PUBLISHED IN FULL OUTSIDE SCANDINAVIA. NOW Flying…
  • p. 174 …I was never more than three or four minutes walk from the girls, and I reckon…
  • p. 176 …to time in the area, but they never heard of them flying at night. "What I…
  • p. 183 …He could not say whether or not it might be a meteor as he had never…
  • p. 201 …Besides, you never know what they could do to you . . . There is no material we know…
  • p. 213 …Church-because of the probability that they never contracted "original sin." ## Flying Discs Sir,—Periodically, Mr…
  • p. 216 …phenomena, there are many individuals who have never reported "sightings" of their own or knowledge. Hope…
  • p. 222 …France, never to be outdone, when it comes to autumn tourist attractions, has also had its…
  • p. 223 …It is necessary for me to state here that I would never falsely colour or manufacture…
  • p. 224 …They said this because they had never seen a modern deep-water diving suit. What they…
  • p. 231 …first reports were immediately followed by a never-ending chain of fantastic stories mostly created by…
  • p. 242 …I do not know what it was, I have never seen such an object before. President…
  • p. 248 …We have never heard of & find it difficult to imagine any meteors or aurorae presenting such…
  • p. 249 …He says that he and his companions never thought of flying saucers, being sure that it…
  • p. 254 …Civil Aviation Dept for some years, but never with the openness and seriousness of these last…
  • p. 256 # ore Observers Confirm # "NORTHERN ADVOCATE" # Seeing Strange Object 凯6 NOV 195本 "I HAVE never seen anything…
  • p. 257 …the man and his family. "I have never seen anything like it in my life," he…
  • p. 263 …or Martians, they reiterate that astronomers have never made any observations which could indicate a high…
  • p. 271 …With this weight of evidence you could well ask why saucers have never been, officially accepted…
  • p. 272 …chances are greater—a planet we have never even heard of. But wherever they come from…
  • p. 273 …I have never seen a saucer—but at least I have seen Mars! Vow the first…
  • p. 280 Acura shall call the existing currency All Min the Prairie neverer less len Qian FILE. for…
  • p. 286 …The world may never know, although he definitely has had a hand in the disk project…
  • p. 302 …observing of evidences, while those who have never seen a flying saucer make a show by…
  • p. 306 …In 18 years of flying I have never seen anything like it. If it had been…
  • p. 307 …and not forgetting those very important ones never to be forgotten sightings. We sincerely hope you…
  • p. 308 …likes light reading as well, but can never find the time now, so great is the…
  • p. 320 …Another official said that the Air Force had never accepted this theory. By classifying sightings as…
  • p. 321 …I never saw it happen before. If the acceleration explanation is true, then the speeds involved…
  • p. 324 …The Air Force has never denied that such a possibility exists. Some of the personnel believe…
  • p. 332 …more closely, I am sure they would never be so keen to rashly debunk it. Right…
  • p. 356 …These have never been confused with flying saucers as some sources of information contend. Recent events…
  • p. 367 …happenings in the sky that science had never been able satisfactorily to explain. Unger, beginning in…
  • p. 373 …Forefathers, the great majority of their ranks never dreamed of or envisaged that which is ordinary…
  • p. 401 …nuclli open to doubt because there have never been reports of them from sailors, astronomers and…
  • p. 416 …to bright red. "I wish I had never seen it," he said. "It's too fantastic…
  • p. 436 …In spite of all the flying saucer reports all over the world, science has never been…
# ASTRONOMER GIVES ASSESSMENT OF "SAUCER" REPORTS

# Timely— Rhyme

Travellers in flying saucers seem to speak most of the languages of earth. News Item.

When in a century or so Our ships flash out through space No doubt the natives will prepare To greet the tourist race.

Popular opinion demands, and the scientist is forced to admit, that it could be that life in some degree similar to ours might exist on unknown worlds.

Mr. I. L. Thomsen, president of the Royal Astronomical Society of New Zealand, said this in giving a scientific assessment of so-called, flying saucer reports to the society at the Carter Observatory on Saturday.

Mr. Thomson said that by the end of the 17th century the astronomer had revealed the arrangement of the solar system. When it was realised that the other planets could be thought of as worlds similar to our own there was the almost immediate suggestion that some might be inhabited.

"Such speculation has continued to the present day," said Mr. Thomsen, "but it has to be admitted that no observational or other proof of a definitive nature has been forthcoming it is still almost a matter of pure speculation.

"Every astronomer must at sometime or another have tried to imagine what it might be like on the other planets. Several eminent astronomers have surveyed the planets of our solar system as possible abodes for life as we know it. Their conclusions are unanimous that the solar system contains no place other than our earth which is at all suitable for life resembling that on earth. Certainly no human being could exist on any of the other planets without the most elaborate artificial aids."

## "Much Better Radios"

Discussing flying saucer reports, Mr. Thomsen compared the situation with that shortly after World War I, when radio was still coming into its own. It had been said at that time that if intelligent beings lived on Mars then they were probably much more intelligent than earth dwellers and had probably developed much better radio sets. Hence the theory developed that Martians might have been trying to establish radio contact with the earth.

"You will see the similarity between this type of woolly reasoning and that with which we are being presented today." Mr. Thomson added. "Sure enough, it was soon reported that Marconi had picked up mysterious messages."

In New Zealand the late Dr. C. Coleridge Farr had flouted the whole Idea, giving scientific reasons for doing so the value of which had not been altered by the passage of time. Radio techniques had since been improved almost beyond comparison, and man had even touched the moon with a radio finger, but no messages had been received from Mars.

Brilliant meteors, or fireballs were quite certainly the cause of an appreciable percentage of flying saucer reports. It was very difficult for an unskilled observer to give an accurate report of such objects.

"In New Zealand, during the last war, an anti-aircraft battery was all set to open fire on an unidentified plane, but was unable to set the range because the range finder showed infinity—this was lucky for Venus!" said Mr. Thomson.

It was significant that there was a complete lack of flying saucer reports from seamen, who were continually on watch all over the world. No reputable astronomer had reported such objects so far as the speaker knew.

## Credulity Taxed

"Such claims as have been made concerning actual landings by these craft stretch credulity almost to breaking point," he said. "There seem to be various types of craft. The passengers are either pygmies or giants, dressed either in a superior type of flying suit or in tin suits.

They can speak Polish, Latin, French and Norwegian and seem to have a quick ability to understand English. In spite of their various sizes and a few minor peculiarities they do not seem to differ in any astonishing manner from the people of this earth. This dispenses with the speculation that on other planets there may be forms of life strange and unknown to us.

"Personally, I am inclined to the opinion that all such reports of flying saucer landings, and many of the

sightlings are nothing more than hoaxes which the perpetrators will some day, regret.

Indeed, when we realise that much nonsense is even being pumped into schoolchildren about such matters by some people who should know better, it becomes a very serious matter.

"Do not let us take the degenerate road of easy fantasy. Remember the history and struggle over the last few hundred years by many thousands of people to give us a treasure of sound knowledge and experience so that we ourselves may progress to greater heights.

"Discard this as well as the basic method of living which has been known, for some thousands of years and we can be sure that self-destruction, to which the atomic bomb is only the finality, is already on the way. The Goths did not kill Rome—they merely finished it."

## DISCOVERY OF "COMET"

"Don't let us, as astronomers, feel too smug," said Mr. I. L. Thomsen, president of the Royal Astronomical Society of New Zealand, mentioning the hazards of inexperienced observation to the society on Saturday night. "I remember one well-known telescopic observer who watched the outof-focus image of a wireless insulator just outside the observatory for three successive nights and reported the discovery of a comet."

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