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NZDF declassified RNZAF UFO files

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This is a New Zealand Defence Force public release of RNZAF file AIR 39/3/3, "Flying Saucers," which covers 1952 to 1955 and was declassified in September 2010 under the Official Information Act. It collects sighting reports from the public and military personnel, press clippings, and a table of 1952 sightings. It also holds Carter Observatory opinions attributing some reports to meteors. A large part covers the inquiry into lights seen from National Airways Corporation Flight 108 on 31 October 1955, which the RNZAF could not fully explain as Venus.

  • p. 14 …a "Aying saucer" over the Hawock North Hills is claimed to have been obtained by Mr…
  • p. 15 …to be coming slowly down towards the hills. It bore the appearance, she said, of a…
  • p. 20 …They first noticed the light high above the hills behind Bay View. It hovered there for…
  • p. 21 …To-night it will set shortly before 9 o'clock, though, with hills to the west…
  • p. 28 …very powerful one, flashing on the Patterang hill, about a mile distant. First it kept pointing…
  • p. 61 …step they shall be Sahin Discover the Hills will. Often and thing will be set free…
  • p. 72 …On reaching the brow of a hill he saw a brightly lit object coming toward him…
  • p. 94 …the following from the top of Kinbarni Hill : at 3: 32 p.m. shortly after a…
  • p. 125 …large star low down over the Wellington hills drew the attention of a prominent Auckland business…
  • p. 130 …climbed a hill in Lancashire to photograph birds. They set their camera to infinity and directed…
  • p. 132 …Both then disappeared slowly behind the outline of the hill. 北川羌族自治县
  • p. 175 …CLOSE-UP OF THE GREAT GALLOWAY HILLS MYSTERY - WHAT CAN THIS THING BE? This is reported…
  • p. 188 …On February 15 this year two schoolboys were reported to have climbed a hill in Lancashire…
  • p. 189 …Stewart, a farmer, of Saddle Hill, one of the men who saw the fire ball (or…
  • p. 212 # SCIENTIST EXPLAINS STRANGE SKY SIGHTS On top of Kelburn hill two silver observatory domes gleam in…
  • p. 225 The objects that landed were not Meteorites, because they travelled horizontally, manoeuvred around hills, stopped in…
  • p. 233 …This club formed by students of a Primary School, One Tree Hill. Master Kelvin Barton advised…
  • p. 249 …see a bright star, slightly above the hill behind Whakarewarewa, suddenly, "take off" on a circuit…
  • p. 251 …to see the object disappear over a hill in a manner that suggested to him, would…
  • p. 256 …He was on top of the hill in Commons Street, Oneraht, when the sun had just…
  • p. 257 …and at the time was on a hill overlooking the countryside. He was looking toward where…
  • p. 258 …over the penisula and disappeared over Saddle Hill. A boy said it looked like a football…
  • p. 267 …It was a big fireball and, though it seemed to be over the Karori hills, must…
  • p. 278 …Three policemen plodded solemnly into the hills accompanied by the sisters and surveyed the scene of…
  • p. 312 …as far a part as Hamilton East, Hill-croft Whitiora, and Maeroa and which occured right…
  • p. 320 …This corresponds with the rotation of a parabolic antenna located on a nearby hill. As the…
  • p. 327 …vapor, flashing across the sky over Box Hill at 2.30p.m. I saw what appeared…
  • p. 335 …Scoffers were con- founded, however, by the unusual story of a settler at Kauroo Hill. It…
  • p. 336 …time the airship had disappeared over a hill. The object was also seen at Mahono. The…
  • p. 363 …a south-East direction near the Adelaide hills. In the meantime I called my wife who…
  • p. 368 …Southwest had seen flash across the bare hills in straight, silent, horizontal flight, Unger recalled a…
  • p. 379 …191953 A group of people at surrey hills yesterday reported seeing a four minute display by…
  • p. 392 …was well above the line of the hills. When he resumed his journey he saw the…
  • p. 393 …The main light, however, seemed to hover over the Hokonui Hills. For some time it swung…
  • p. 396 …blue object was seen over the Port Hills at Christchurch at 11.45 p.m. A…
  • p. 422 …Brown, of Hill Grove, Naenae, their daughter Alice and her friend Ron Middleton, all saw a…
  • p. 430 …was even above the line of the hills. When he resumed his journey he saw the…
  • p. 431 …motion well above the outline of the hills. It was going in an easterly direction. I…
  • p. 436 …bearing says, a church spire or a hill, we can draw a line on a map…
  • p. 439 …disappeared in a northerly direction over the hills of Khandallah. The object was viewed from the…
  • p. 444 …Sugarloaf hill near Napier DATE: 30/10/52 TIME: approx 9.30pm. A/C.TYPE(s…

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# MOST REPORTS THOUGHT TO BE HOAXES Science Considers Saucers, But Not Very Highly

PERSONALLY he felt that most flying saucer reports were hoaxes, but if reliable reports could be obtained the scientific world would be agog with interest, as they would be events of the first magnitude, said the president of the Royal Astronomical Society of New Zealand (Mr. I. L. Thomsen) at the society's annual meeting on Saturday.

The director of the Carter Observatory ' (Mr. Thomsen) spoke on "A Scientific Consideration of Flying Saucer Reports."

It was highly probable that other planetary systems existed but it might be a considerable time before the existence of other systems could be demonstrated by observation, he said. Within our own solar system it seemed that no life could exist comparable to that of earth. Life as it was known on earth was confined to rigid physical limits and those conditions would have to be duplicated for similar life to exist elsewhere. Present knowledge of a basis for life on other planets was almost entirely lacking and the existence of such life was purely speculative.

Mr. Thomsen recalled the years immediately after the First World War, when radio was an innovation and enthusiasts were looking for messages from Mars. It was assumed that the Martians were so much more intelligent than the men of earth and had far better sets, so a message was sure to come. Yet with the great development of radio, Mars was still silent. The situation was much the same today about inter-planetary travel. People from other planets were reported travelling the universe and actually being on earth.

## Untrained Enthusiasts

Scientists had to receive and examine these reports, said Mr. Thomsen, but the task was not made easy by the host of enthusiasts who made the reports but were completely untrained in every sense of the word. With innocent impertinence they regarded the questioning scientist as stupid, bigoted, secretive or ignorant. Such terms as "flying saucers, flying cigars, flying paper-clips," had been used, he said. There was no uniformity but they seemed to be of bright lights and such phenomena or fairly detailed mechanical contrivances. He felt sure that the first class comprised natural or well-known phenomena. Not many people looked at the sky regularly and when they saw something they could not explain they immediately concluded that it was a flying saucer. One factor was that so much could be read about flying saucers.

Reports of objects at great heights

and speeds could be immediately discounted, he said. Brilliant meteors and fireballs accounted for an appreciable percentage of reports. Planets and stars were mistaken, as were meteorological balloons and such things as the effect of searchlights on clouds. Whereas the ordinary observer jumped to conclusions, the good astronomical observer constantly checked up on himself and should discover if he was wrong.

There remained the residual of reports not satisfactorily answered, he said. Often they were not precise enough or if a scientific observer had been present he could perhaps have given an answer.

## Significant Lack

It was significant that there was a lack of reports from seamen on watch 24 hours of the day all over the world, said Mr. Thomsen. Or from nightwatchmen, policemen, and others who worked in the night. As far as he knew, no reputable astronomer had reported seeing flying saucers. Those most involved seemed to be connected with air services, but then they were meeting phenomena not encountered from the ground.

Some claims of the landing of the crafts stretched credulity almost to breaking point, he said. Occupants were said to have a knowledge of our languages and did not differ astonishingly from earthly forms of life. It had been said that they were attracted by the atomic explosions and either did not know what they were about or came to warn us of the dangers of such things, but they had chosen a highly ineffective way of doing so. Nor had they made any attempt to examine the earth. Either they were scared, snobbish, or stupid.

There was no reason for hiding information about them. If they came in peace, they would be welcomed. If they came in war, the people would have to be told. But in the meantime, to keep a sane outlook, the complete worthlessness of much of the material being foisted on to people must be appreciated. Astronomical societies should work harder than ever in the study of their science. It had to be realised that there was much not known and there was a proneness to make mistakes, but also a great deal was known. The degenerate road of easy fantasy should not be taken. It was a serious matter that so much nonsense on the subject was being learnt by children.

# Convinced Flying Saucers Are Real

AUCKLAND, Dec. 8 (PA).—"I am fully convinced that flying saucers are real and of extra-terrestrial origin," Mr. H. H. Fulton, of Auckland, president of the Civilian Saucer Investigation Association, said today. He was replying to scepticism expressed by Mr. I. L. Thomsen, president of the Royal Astronomical Society of New Zealand.

"Civilian investigators are interested only in the truth," Mr. Fulton said, "and I for one would not dare to pass on false or baseless findings to children or anyone else."

He deprecated the attitude of astronomers who "debunked and ridiculed" the "many thousands of sincere and fully qualified observers." If they studied the evidence astronomers would either join the flying saucer investigators or confine themselves to their own studies. Contrary to a statement by Mr. Thomsen, many seamen had reported seeing flying saucers. Last July the captain and five officers of the Dutch ship Troote Peer reported seeing an object 80 miles out from New York.

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