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NZDF declassified RNZAF UFO files

NZDF / RNZAF via Internet Archive · 2010-12 · 445 pages · text by OCR

This is a New Zealand Defence Force public release of RNZAF file AIR 39/3/3, "Flying Saucers," which covers 1952 to 1955 and was declassified in September 2010 under the Official Information Act. It collects sighting reports from the public and military personnel, press clippings, and a table of 1952 sightings. It also holds Carter Observatory opinions attributing some reports to meteors. A large part covers the inquiry into lights seen from National Airways Corporation Flight 108 on 31 October 1955, which the RNZAF could not fully explain as Venus.

  • p. 152 …into a world crisis. (2) concurrent and open discussion of East-West differences, which if effected…
  • p. 173 …He then opened a kind of hatch on the top of the "rim" which encircled the…
  • p. 185 …So keep an open and ever broadening mind, it is not a bit of good trying…
  • p. 212 …Thomsen is open-minded on the subject but is quite happy to explain from now till…
  • p. 213 …WHAT SOURCE. "Open Mind" (Palmerston North) says it is evident that Mr. Thomsen has not read…
  • p. 273 …Evidently they are not sure "I have an open mind, with no great feeling one way…
  • p. 327 …are keeping an open mind on the source of the objects. I believe, he said, from…
  • p. 331 …we should as Kickshaws suggests maintain an open mind on the subject. (The President of C…
  • p. 345 …Many people all over the world have an open mind on this question and are ready…
  • p. 376 …If any person has an open mind on the subject and is prepared to weigh out…
  • p. 397 …thing but one has to have an open mind. The trouble with these reports from all…
  • p. 405 …Briefly, while they are prepared to have an open mind on the subject, I think it…
  • p. 421 …I can't give any explanation off hand." ## 'An open mind' THAT looks to be quite…
Q. Have you ever met any women on any of these ships?

A. Yes there are women on all the ships, that is, the big ships especially. I have heard of a ship landing, the saucer type, a very large one, where there were five men and two beautiful brunette women all averaging 5' to 6'1". The women were around 5'6" to 5'8" while the men were round 6' to 6'1".

Q. Have you ever been taken to another planet?

A. No, I have not.

Q. Has anyone that you know of ever been taken to another planet?

A. I have heard of cases where men have been taken to other planets. Just recently there was a man giving a lecture (Nelson) in Chicago saying that he was taken to two planets, Mars and Venus, as well as the moon, and I have some of his letters that he wrote to me prior to his lecture. At that time he did not go out, but since then he did and of course, I believe his case, only on these grounds, that while my book "Inside a Space Ship" is not yet out, but will be out in a few days, no one read the script and yet he had the same information which I have written about in the book, meaning then that he has contacted another group of Venusians different from mine, and must have got his information from that group, on these grounds I base the case as being true as far as I know.

A. Well I was taken pretty close to one other planet like that of Venus but never landed on it.

Q. How far out have you been taken?

Q. Is space sunny or is it black dark?

A. It is darkness. The further out in space you get, the darker it gets, although if any object was moving through space it seems to be a little darker than space itself so you can still detect it even with your own eyes.

Q. Is there life on the moon?

A. Yes there are plenty of inhabitants on the moon, in fact the space people have bases on the moon and quite a number of them.

Q. Do you know what the bridge on the moon is which has recently been discovered by astronomers. Does it cross a deep canyon or water or what?

A. Well it seems to be crossing a canyon, what it is, (and it is probably not built by man,) that is hard to say until you land on it and investigate it. It could be made by nature just that way, for even made by nature is a feat in itself, for it is 250 ft in length it has been reported. I have that report from the "Sky and Telescope" magazine, which is published by Harvard a couple of years ago, this was given out.

Q. Do they have weather on the moon like we have, changing storms and such as that, or do they have extremes of hot and cold?

A. Well, they have the extreme hot and cold, the same as we have it we have it on earth as well, and astronomy will never prove facts to the exact state that's one sure think. It takes many other forms of science to conform this thing since none of the scientists that talk about this have ever gone there themselves to prove it. They are only speculating or theorising.

2. There have been reports throughout the years of mysterious light on the moon. Sometimes these things last a long time and sometimes they are only flashes now and then. Can you explain those?

A. Well surely they would not be there unless somebody would operate them or produce them There has to be some sort of intelligence to bring forth these odd manifestations as we call them. As I stated before, our instruments that we have, as good as they are they are not good enough yet to give us an exact answer to all these questions.

Q. Are there oceans on the moon?

A. There is water on the moon, or there is moisture on the moon - there is bound to be because chemistry will tell you that if it is $ 2 4 0^{\circ} \mathrm{F} $ on one side and $ 2 4 0^{\circ} $ below zero on the other side that these two extremities are going to meet, and anybody who studies chemistry knows that once they meet they produce moisture themselves automatically, also produce a temperate zone at the very spot they meet, they have got to blend some place.

Q. Well; about those extreme temperatures, Halley says there are -some to the rising of 240 degrees.

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