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NZDF declassified RNZAF UFO files

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This is a New Zealand Defence Force public release of RNZAF file AIR 39/3/3, "Flying Saucers," which covers 1952 to 1955 and was declassified in September 2010 under the Official Information Act. It collects sighting reports from the public and military personnel, press clippings, and a table of 1952 sightings. It also holds Carter Observatory opinions attributing some reports to meteors. A large part covers the inquiry into lights seen from National Airways Corporation Flight 108 on 31 October 1955, which the RNZAF could not fully explain as Venus.

  • p. 11 …I have never seen a planet move like that. My co-pilot (First Officer S G…
  • p. 22 …I can only add if anyone believes my something they have never seen then here's…
  • p. 50 …they have landed, someplace, but I have never been able to track it down, but as…
  • p. 51 …the space people? A. It was not. Never deliberate on their part, but our aggression and…
  • p. 52 …Well I was taken pretty close to one other planet like that of Venus but never…
  • p. 53 …to class-room, for graduation which is never attained because eternity is eternity. Do they have…
  • p. 62 …lot on this great took it has never been strong yet I gave my standing son…
  • p. 72 …I never read who-dunnits, and I shun thrillers like poison; I suppose I have to…
  • p. 91 …such things for personal files but have never had copies made. I can see the value…
  • p. 97 …g) No peculiarities except that I have never observed its like before. (h) Solid in appearance…
  • p. 126 …moment. "In all my flying I've never seen anything 'like it," he said today. Air…
  • p. 137 …Someplace, but I have never been able to track it down, but as far as I…
  • p. 138 …the space people? A. It was not. Never deliberate on their part, but our aggression and…
  • p. 139 …Well I was taken pretty close to one other planet like that of Venus but never…
  • p. 140 …to class-room, for graduation which is never attained because eternity is eternity. Q. Do they…
  • p. 145 …we are making them," stated Mr. Quarles. Never in the history of our subject have I…
  • p. 151 …I have never said that the Big Four gathered to discuss the question of the UFO…
  • p. 152 …The real issues at Geneva are not yet known, and may never be, but we are…
  • p. 157 …a subjective reason why more stories have never been related, especially so, where PROMINENT PEOPLE are…
  • p. 158 …Wallace's mother, whom we later interviewed, claimed that her son had never been so frightened…
  • p. 167 …the phenomenon of Horseheads, N.Y., may never be known. ## ******* ## THE SWEDISH GHOST ROCKETS by S…
  • p. 172 …ALTHOUGH THE STORY WAS WIDELY REPORTED, IT WAS NEVER PUBLISHED IN FULL OUTSIDE SCANDINAVIA. NOW Flying…
  • p. 174 …I was never more than three or four minutes walk from the girls, and I reckon…
  • p. 176 …to time in the area, but they never heard of them flying at night. "What I…
  • p. 183 …He could not say whether or not it might be a meteor as he had never…
  • p. 201 …Besides, you never know what they could do to you . . . There is no material we know…
  • p. 213 …Church-because of the probability that they never contracted "original sin." ## Flying Discs Sir,—Periodically, Mr…
  • p. 216 …phenomena, there are many individuals who have never reported "sightings" of their own or knowledge. Hope…
  • p. 222 …France, never to be outdone, when it comes to autumn tourist attractions, has also had its…
  • p. 223 …It is necessary for me to state here that I would never falsely colour or manufacture…
  • p. 224 …They said this because they had never seen a modern deep-water diving suit. What they…
  • p. 231 …first reports were immediately followed by a never-ending chain of fantastic stories mostly created by…
  • p. 242 …I do not know what it was, I have never seen such an object before. President…
  • p. 248 …We have never heard of & find it difficult to imagine any meteors or aurorae presenting such…
  • p. 249 …He says that he and his companions never thought of flying saucers, being sure that it…
  • p. 254 …Civil Aviation Dept for some years, but never with the openness and seriousness of these last…
  • p. 256 # ore Observers Confirm # "NORTHERN ADVOCATE" # Seeing Strange Object 凯6 NOV 195本 "I HAVE never seen anything…
  • p. 257 …the man and his family. "I have never seen anything like it in my life," he…
  • p. 263 …or Martians, they reiterate that astronomers have never made any observations which could indicate a high…
  • p. 271 …With this weight of evidence you could well ask why saucers have never been, officially accepted…
  • p. 272 …chances are greater—a planet we have never even heard of. But wherever they come from…
  • p. 273 …I have never seen a saucer—but at least I have seen Mars! Vow the first…
  • p. 280 Acura shall call the existing currency All Min the Prairie neverer less len Qian FILE. for…
  • p. 286 …The world may never know, although he definitely has had a hand in the disk project…
  • p. 302 …observing of evidences, while those who have never seen a flying saucer make a show by…
  • p. 306 …In 18 years of flying I have never seen anything like it. If it had been…
  • p. 307 …and not forgetting those very important ones never to be forgotten sightings. We sincerely hope you…
  • p. 308 …likes light reading as well, but can never find the time now, so great is the…
  • p. 320 …Another official said that the Air Force had never accepted this theory. By classifying sightings as…
  • p. 321 …I never saw it happen before. If the acceleration explanation is true, then the speeds involved…
  • p. 324 …The Air Force has never denied that such a possibility exists. Some of the personnel believe…
  • p. 332 …more closely, I am sure they would never be so keen to rashly debunk it. Right…
  • p. 356 …These have never been confused with flying saucers as some sources of information contend. Recent events…
  • p. 367 …happenings in the sky that science had never been able satisfactorily to explain. Unger, beginning in…
  • p. 373 …Forefathers, the great majority of their ranks never dreamed of or envisaged that which is ordinary…
  • p. 401 …nuclli open to doubt because there have never been reports of them from sailors, astronomers and…
  • p. 416 …to bright red. "I wish I had never seen it," he said. "It's too fantastic…
  • p. 436 …In spite of all the flying saucer reports all over the world, science has never been…
## Climbed

It was in sight for fully five minutes and when the aircraft climbed to 9000 feet to clear some cloud, the object climbed with it. Among the passengers were Air Commodore R. J. Cohen, inspector-general of the Royal New Zealand Air Force, and an airline

to cover the 10 miles between Albatross Point and what we call Hamilton West, the object covered 70 miles."

pilot. "The pilot had seen the object when I spoke to him about it," commented Captain Rainbow, "and I woke up Air Commodore Cohen and pointed it out to him. We did not tell the women passengers in case it caused some alarm." His co-pilot, First Officer S.G. Trounce, also saw it.

S. G. Trounce, also saw it. "It was definitely not an illusion," he added. "I know what a planet looks like and it was nothing like that. On the ground it is easy to get confused about these things, but when you're in the air and an object flies alongside of you, you cannot mistake that."

## Discussions Held

Venus—not an errant outer space visitor. 4 NOV 1955 This is his evidence:

"I was asleep when the pilot, Captain Rainbow, shook me awake." He told me he had seen something strange." That was the thing Captain Rainbow describes as 'like a marine beacon revolving with some kind of a porthole in it and changing colour, flying seven times faster than we were."

Captain Rainbow and First Officer Trounce were in Wellington today and held discussions with the Director of Civil Aviation (Mr. E. A. Gibson) and senior officers of the Civil Air Administration. The log of the flight and the tape records of radio-telephone communications between plane and ground control were discussed at length with the officers of Flight Com-

"I looked out," Air Commodore Cohen says. "I told him it was a planet—and promptly went back to sleep."

That was the stage Captain Rainbow decided not to tell women passengers because the news might alarm them, and it was then, too, that his co-pilot, First Officer Trounce, agreed it was not a planet, but something flying alongside them.

The Air Commodore slept on. When he landed, he checked with references, and decided positively that what he saw was Venus, low down on the horizon. He is still sure. In the meantime, the Minister in Charge of Civil Aviation (Mr. Shand) has ordered an inquiry, and the acting Minister of Defence (Mr. Halstead) has instructed that the Air Force co-operate

## EXPERIENCE

## VARTIME

Mr. Lumsden took off from England at 7 o'clock at night and landed bout an hour and a half later. Heew to the French coast and pinpointed himself over the mouth of le Somme.

A wartime experience similar to that of the NAC crew was described day by Mr. B. C. Lumsden, of power Hutt, who was nying a Hurricane on intruder operations overrance in December, 1942, when heighted two lights which followed him or about 15 minutes.

He was flying at 7000 feet when he saw two dim amber or orange piered lights climbing steadily side by side, with one slightly above the other. At first he thought it was tracerak, but stopped thinking that because of the slowness with which the lights climbed. He did a full turn and still saw the lights astern and port but larger and brighter than before.

The lights were then level with him 7000ft and no longer climbing, ir. Lumsden recalled. He again made complete turn and found the lights ere staying behind him on the turn.

the airliner neared Raglan, moved ahead to the north-west. Planets, said Captain Rainbow, do not do that. There was no question of the aircraft swinging to give that effect, he said, for he was flying on the automatic pilot.

Another passenger, who could not be communicated with yesterday as he was on leave, was Mr. A. R. Tuckett, Air Traffic Officer at Hobsonville and a very experienced pilot, too, had watched the light, or,ighted object, or whatever it was, and had first expressed the opinion o Mr. Trounce that it was a planet, but later decided that that could not be so.

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