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Office of the Secretary of Defense: 022_SASC_Transcript_2023

Department of Defense. Office of the Secretary of Defense. · 2023 · 50 pages · text from the file's own layer

This is a stenographic transcript of an April 19, 2023 hearing of the Senate Armed Services Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities, chaired by Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, on the mission and budget of the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office. AARO released it in full in 2025. Director Sean Kirkpatrick testified that AARO has found no credible evidence of extraterrestrial activity and that most reports resolve into mundane objects. He also presented trend data and two declassified MQ-9 videos, one of which was resolved as a commuter aircraft.

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1 evidence to Dr. Kirkpatrick and if you have copies we will
2 take your copies.
3 Audience Member: I have footage. I have grown up in
4 Albuquerque, New Mexico.
5 Audience Member: Same here.
6 Audience Member: I have on my phone three different
7 examples of glowing dots flying in circles or going over
8 Sandia Labs and Kirkland Air Force Base.
9 Senator Gillibrand: Yeah. Yes.
10 Audience Member: They have come down frequently and
11 consistently and loiter over our advanced weapons and
12 manufacturing industry, monitor it using advanced means like
13 the --
14 Senator Gillibrand: Yeah. We are very interested in
15 that data.
16 Audience Member: The vehicles tend to be about 10
17 meters in size and the data that Dr. Kirkpatrick gave about
18 the signatures of one to three gigahertz is the propulsion
19 field interacting with the atmospheric water -- the water in
20 the atmosphere.
21 The higher gigahertz range comes from the effects of
22 the propulsion field reducing the initial mass of the craft
23 so they can do these outstanding maneuvers of [inaudible]
24 degrees or rotating and flying off at hypersonic velocity.
25 There is knowledge within the weapons industry. More
Page determined to be Unclassified
Reviewed by Chief of Staff, AARO
IAW FY24 NDAA, Section 1841(a)(1)(C)
Date: 2/6/2025
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